The Sonic AP here is BS

[Dark649]

I already talked about Battle in another thread and you are are showing stuff that happened in Secret Rings in a vague and not coesive way, i do not see the black hole stuff upgrading them and the base cast has even a 2-B feat by defeating Void but its far higher than their regular showing.

 

[Semajar_The_Debunker]

what does that mean speak english please

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

MMMMMM...

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

OP needs to chill out. Insulting people who disagree with you isn't the right way to hold a discussion and you can get blocked for it.

With that being said there are no tier 4 feats for Base Sonic.

 

[Awsometime]

He literally just gave you 4+ feats

 

[ShakeResounding]

Guys, just cool it with the hostility. People won't want to listen to you if you go about insulting people. As long as you're chill and have a civil debate, people will listen.

Regardless, these will probably be considered outliers. Tier 5 Base Sonic is something people are still aiming for, and it's a touchy subject. Tier 4 Base Sonic, as it currently stands, is a no-go for most here.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wrong choice of words, @Shake. For something to be an outlier t has to be legit in the first place.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

Just saw the cutscene of the Black Hole forming, and apparently it was going to, eventually, suck up the whole planet, so basically it's a pseudo-black hole which is unquantificable weaker than Planet level.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

He literally just gave you 4+ feats

Emerl overloaded from absorbing the Final Egg Blaster's energy. It was too much power for him to handle.

Doesn't sound like the statement is referring to actual hot balls of plasma when talking about stars. Context is important.

The black holes wouldn't be above planet level.

 

[Semajar_The_Debunker]

so what he overloaded that doesn't mean he had strength base sonic still tanked his punches that doesn't disprove shit

 

[Semajar_The_Debunker]

I GAVE YOU 2 INFINITE AND ERAZOR DJIIN HOLY SHIT

 

[Semajar_The_Debunker]

Instead of saying the feats are outliers prove they are outliers instead of using head canon

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Calm down. And stop with the expletives. And try making your arguments in a coherent manner. Also, use punctuations.

 

[Semajar_The_Debunker]

Do I need punctuations no I don't I have the right to be pissed because your not refuting what I say

 

[Sera_EX]

>You some dumbass people

>Insulting others throughout the thread

>Unwarranted swearing.

Don't make me close this thread. If you don't like a rating, that's fine, I appreciate you actually making a CRT about it (especially regarding on of my two favorite verses) but this isn't the YouTube comment section.

And, this goes for everyone, chill the hell out.

 

[Semajar_The_Debunker]

Are you trying to shut me up because I'm to mean and I'm swearing seriously? these people deserve to get insulted because their only argument is my feats our outliers this is a thread for discussing and debating what do you expect this isn'y flowes and daisys Bruh

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The Egg Blaster isn't even a feat, but him reacting going berserk over a feat. By that logic, every Firebender from Avatar is Star level via being powered by the sun. The "Black Hole" is too small to be an actual feat and it is still visible and doesn't demonstrate sucking up pure light; not even close.

Base Erazor doesn't have his Universal feat till his transformed stage and his base form has no feats to speak of aside from being High 6-A scaling from base Sonic. Base Sonic is consistently struggling to fight characters whose best feat peak at Tier 6. Void severely held back and simply toyed with the characters, so no one scales from him. As others mentioned, there was no actual showing of the black hole engulfing stars.

So in conclusion, Base Sonic has no concrete feats exceeding High 6-A

 

[Sera_EX]

Why would I try to shut you up? I actually agree with some points you made, but here we simply ask members to try and remain polite.

And no one deserves to be insulted, period. This isn't flowers and daisies? This isn't politics either, so there is no need to insult anyone. It's just vs debating.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

@DarkDragon That black hole is also not much bigger than Sonic. A stellar mass black hole would be several miles across so even if it were a real one, it wouldn't be star level regardless.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

Do I need punctuations no I don't I have the right to be pissed because your not refuting what I say

As someone whose main language isn't english and has a hard time understanding what you say, yes, you NEED puntuation.