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At first i wanna use Tomoe, but there is more fair opponent for her so welp, here we goes, the Irish No.1 Heroes against Therion, the child of light vs lord of calamity, who would win!!?

-Both are 7-B

-Gae Bolg: the Soaring Spear that Strikes with Death is restricted

-Speed are equalized

-Both in character

-Place: Tokyo Bay

-Range are 50 meters

-Win via death!!!

Fate Grand Order Lancer Render
Velvet Render
 
I don't think Velvet can deal with Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death, so I'd probably call it a stomp, as she just dies instantly unless it's in character for him to not use the spear.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
I don't think Velvet can deal with Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death, so I'd probably call it a stomp, as she just dies instantly unless it's in character for him to not use the spear.
The OP states that Gae Bolg is restricted.

Edit: Apparently there are multpile versions of it, apologies for the confusion.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
Soaring Spear is, not Barbed Spear.
I had that realization before your response, apologies.
 
Whenever I see "C├╣ Chulainn" on those threads, for whatever reason I always expect the SMT one to be there, even if we don't have a profile for him.

He definitely wouldn't die as much though
 
Cu pulls his NP out more often than most Servants, but he won't open with it. What can Crowe do to win?
 
She can soul suck, destroy his body, and absorb his powers with her arm, though it's better to find a calc for where she scales before fighting any fate characters.
 
Cu has resistance to Soul Manip by being a Servant, which can resist Goetia's passive soul rip. Cu has runes that boost his durability to Mountain level.

He also has the skill advantage, so unless Crowe starts putting him at risk of actually losing, he won't use the Barbed Spear, so she has that going for her at least.
 
It isn't on his profile, but he should. Goetia passively rips out the soul of anyone who looks into his eyes, and at the end of the London Singularity, the MC was caught in it and sent to purgatory. The Servants that tried to fight him off weren't affected despite not knowing not to look into his eyes.
 
ok, and he has to go through the other stuff like having his body get destroyed once absorbed, and her mid level Regenerationn, which makes the heart piercing ability not as effective.
 
no she's not, she scales from a roughly 24 megaton feat. Or at the very least she should be since I heard there's a calc regarding volcanic eruptions.
 
Theglassman12 said:
no she's not, she scales from a roughly 24 megaton feat. Or at the very least she should be since I heard there's a calc regarding volcanic eruptions.
If I could find the calc, I would've already put it on the profiles in the first place.
 
Theglassman12 said:
ok, and he has to go through the other stuff like having his body get destroyed once absorbed, and her mid level Regenerationn, which makes the heart piercing ability not as effective.
Gae Bolg nulls regen and carries a death curse. Mid regen does nothing.
 
that's not an answer. How high of a Regenerationn factor can he nullify? Not to mention I don't see curse manipulation on his profile.
 
He can null any Servant's regen, which includes Enkidu, who has Low-Godly. Also, Cu's entire thing is that his spear is cursed. Whoever wrote the profile just forgot about that I guess.
 
Theglassman12 said:
that's not an answer. How high of a Regenerationn factor can he nullify? Not to mention I don't see curse manipulation on his profile.
Yes it is

If she doesn't resist curse manipulation then her regen gets nulled.

That's an obvious answer
 
@Solacis thank you for clarifying it.

@Schnee It's not an obvious answer as that can be a NLF if there's no on screen feat on what he's negated. By that logic, That would be me saying that I could negate High Godly Regenerationn from the SMT characters cause I have a Regenerationn negating curse.
 
So basically it goes down to whether or not she can absorb, or Lancer can Gae Bolg. Glad we got that clarified. I'd propose at the very least holding this match out until I can find the volcano calc that should scale to the cast. Or at worst, just close this match for the time being.
 
I may be remembering incorrectly but don't Therions like Velvet feed on darkness, malevolence and curses? Feed as in passively absorb (at a slow rate) or use the claw for a more direct approach and faster rate.
 
@Tactical I haven't gotten too far into Berseria, so maybe it's there, or maybe not. I'll see if something like that is ever stated in the game.
 
Velvet can absorb the spear's curse while in CQC which is in character for both. If she hits the spear with her claw, its curse could get removed.
 
In-character, both go for CQC at the beginning, which would mean that Velvet is going to hit or parry his spear a few times at least. She absorbs the curse on the spear and gains it in her own attacks while Gae Bolg gets powernulled into a sharp metal rod. Her attacks are unhealable now and Cu's NP won't do anything other than physical damage which she can regen from. Cu can keep her at bay for a while via skill and runes but eventually, he's going to lose.

Voting Velvet.
 
With Gae Bolg restricted, I personally think Velvet has the advantage here due to her previously mentioned abilities. Her being able to absorb curses with her claw is something I almost overlooked.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
She absorbs the curse on the spear and gains it in her own attacks while Gae Bolg gets powernulled into a sharp metal rod.
The regen null curse might get absorbed, though I doubt it since it's conceptually inherent to the weapon, but Gae Bolg's causality reversal would still work since it's technique-based, so it would hardly become a "sharp metal rod". Technically it's not even made of metal, but phantasmal bone.
 
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