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The Archiver's Tier

Firephoenixearl

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Since i need to make a CRT imma do so.

So what i first thought is that The Archiver embodies all possibilities and all universes which are all based on possibilities and these possibilities were "countless". But that doesn't seem to be the case. They are actually infinite.

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I want to keep this short, only did this cus the rules say no tiering change without CRT. And for some of you who asked why The Archiver is 2-B, here you have the reason.
 
I'm neutral on this for right now.

I have problems with Tier 2 Archive but I'm not saying it isn't completely wrong, just that I don't agree with it 100%. Since it is going to take me some time to get there, I guess 2-A via this statement is ok... But I'd appreciate more input.
 
I guess that's fine. Still would appreciate more input.
 
From the context, endless sounds more like it's an enormous number that can't be determined, because it includes all the possibilities of every individual. That would be insanely high into 2-B, but not enough for 2-A.
 
Yeah but the number of individuals is an ever growing number. Always increasing into infinity without reaching infinity. And endless means just that, a number that finds no end (can be meant as in infinity, but there would need to be more proof or context). The Archiver encompasses all possibilities ever and keeps on growing for more possibilities.

This is not sure 2-A which is why the tier im thinking of is:

At least 2-B, likely 2-A

So not a flat 2-A tier.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
With 2-A it has to be infinite.
Since you admitted that it wouldn't reach into infinity, yeah it's just 2-B.
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No. 2-A is countably infinite. Infinity would be High 2-A.

2-B: Multiverse level
Characters who can create and/or destroy 1001 to any higher finite number of universal 4-dimensional space-time continuums.

2-A: Multiverse level+
This category is separated in the following manner:

  • Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums. Take note that the universes are technically lined up along a 5-dimensional axis, but that their geometrical size still amounts to 0 within this scale.
  • High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0.
2-B - Any number as long as it's a set number.

2-A - A number that is REALLY high, but just keeps on growing and growing without end.

High 2-A - Destroying literal infinite number of universes
 
2-A is infinite universes (infinite 4D).

High 2-A is 5 dimensional.

If there isn't a straight up statement of infinite universes, then the highest we give is 2-B.
 
"May potentionally also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5D size can be higher than 0."

So yeah, High 2-A is for 5D beings.
 
Ofc High 2-A is for 5D beings, but according to the tiering page. Even destroying an infinite number of universes can give you this. While the 2-A page says "Countably infinite" not "infinity" there is a key difference between the 2.
 
Because the difference between a lower dimension and a higher dimension is a qualitive difference of uncountable infinity.
 
Yeah i know that. But still the 2-A tier is for "countably infinite" numbers. Which means not infinity itself, just an ever growing never ending number.
 
Although, if a universe existed for each possibility of every individual, that would be a higher level of 2-B than even Arceus. Cal isn't going to like that ovo.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
Although, if a universe existed for each possibility of every individual, that would be a higher level of 2-B than even Arceus. Cal isn't going to like that ovo.
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At least 2-B then
 
@Shadow it'll likely be the highest into 2-B ever. Since it's countless possibilities for every human being ever (every universe), and reality has been reset at least twice (we know it has been reset twice, we don't know if it has done more), so ugh...sorry cal i guess. xD

@Nedge is a infinitely growing number 2-A?
 
@Firephoenixearl, infinitely growing is At least 2-B because it grows near infinite but won't reach infinite and will be a higher finite number.

2-B: Multiverse level
Characters who can create and/or destroy 1001 to any higher finite number of universal 4-dimensional space-time continuums.

2-A: Multiverse level+
This category is separated in the following manner:

  • Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums. Take note that the universes are technically lined up along a 5-dimensional axis, but that their geometrical size still amounts to 0 within this scale.
 
Hmm ok i just asked, and i apparently was wrong. Ok then The Archiver is 2-B...stupidly high into 2-B (with only the "endless" trying to prove infinity, but for now i don't think that'd be enough. Imma leave the possibly 2-A archiver for once i find more proof). For now the archiver rules over and can erase/reset a world made out of countless universes for each human, in each of those universes and this number gets higher and higher....god damn, that's a lot
 
the file , could rise to TIER 2A it not only controls the infinite universes, such as chaos, possibilities, destiny, time and space, time lines, realities and dimensions, History, life and death, creation and destruction and since he rules over all things. Remember that the ginji won the battle of the ogre against the voodoo king and with that the right to ascend to the city of Babylo (real world) and there he has the right to recreate the world according to his will, because the virtual world was made for Lord of Creator , ginji amano (who is dead in the real world it is an anomaly within GB). A quick explanation: GB's world was created to be a place of peace without any kind of chaos or violence, but someone sabotaged and tried to destroy the file creating a flaw that threatened the whole world , so a small group of scientists accepted the work to investigate this problem and one of them was called Kojami Kyoji, and the traitor and responsible was witch quee so they had to choose a creator to rule over the file and recreate the world.
 
I would actually agree with the above to put The Archiver and LoC Ginji (which i may make a key for) at 2-A. He also mentioned this in another thread:

He recreated the fortress of infinity which contains an infinite number of universes and is consistently suggested Run on the concept of Multiverse Theory. Here Makube Affirms that if Ginji returns, the whole world will self-destruct because he is now the lord of creation.

The GetBackers multiverse indeed does run on the concept of the Multiverse Theory which i had never thought about. I agree with Amigodavizinhaça on this.
 
I'm not 100% on Archive becoming 2-A but I'm not about to hold up a thread as I'm going through several verses at the moment.

If more people agree I'm fine with this.
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Why isn't the abstract existence type 1?
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While type 1 would be plausable, i don't think it's just enough. He embodies all possibilities and chaos and nothinness (etc you name it), but i think he's still mean to be a "system", though i can see The Archiver as a type 1 abstract. So if there are any good arguments we could change his existence to (Type 1, likely type 3).
 
Type 1 would fit better for systems, digital and beings that exist through a mere concept, thought or incorporality, since they do not have a physical form within the universe, but they exist outside in a higher dimension, thus being able to antigir or would need to reach this dimension.

Type 3 can be reached and even manipulated since they have a physical form and do not depend on their abstraction to coexist even if it can become a concept, thoughts and / or incorporation.
 
Amigodavizinhaça said:
but they exist outside in a higher dimension, thus being able to antigir or would need to reach this dimension.
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Yeah, no, let's not dive in there, we already established we would dismiss any higher dimensional statements. The GetBackers have already been banned once for the higher dimensional statements, i put too much work on the profiles, don't wanna have all that go to waste.
 
But back to the subject, the FILE will rise to Tier 2-A or be 2-B, if there are no more objections, I believe everyone is in favor.
 
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