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Sonic top tiers additions

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After giving it some thought, I am willing to list the following additions that should be made to the Sonic top tiers.

Solaris:

He should have immeasurable speed. Solaris is a higher-dimensional being that simultaneously exists across past, present, and future, thus meaning he is not bound by linear time.

Solaris also needs to have his Regenerationn changed as the High regen from Iblis and Mephiles is no longer applicable, as their regen was downgraded to Mid-High. He should have Low-Godly as Sonic, Shadow, and Silver had to destroy his consciousness to defeat him, Eggman even stated that they couldn't stop his form.

Time Eater:

The Time Eater can travel into different time periods with sheer movement and it tears space apart in the process of doing so. Its Warping Arm Attack ignores the laws of space and time, comparable to Golden King's Grotesque Demonic Hand. This would also qualify for immeasurable speed.

Time Eater should also have Existence Erasure as it can erase time and space.

The Scaling:

All tier 2s who currently have infinite speed would be upgraded to immeasurable.

Additional Note:

There is an item in Sonic Chronicles called the Immunity Idol that grants resistance to Status Effect Inducement. It can be added to the appropriate profiles.

https://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Immunity_Idol#cite_note-Guide-1
 
Agree with the Immunity Idol due to how straightforward it is. Agree with the Solaris stuff and Time Eater getting EE, but neutral on the TE's Immeasurable speed.
 
Time Eater would fall into accordance with note 5 on the Speed page.

"Note 5:

Characters that are able to move backwards and forwards through time by movement alone qualify for immeasurable speed. However, due to general inconsistencies, and the fact that several fictions grant this ability to any character able to move FTL, they may be assigned an additional, independent, speed rating for the ability. This should preferably be evaluated on a case-by-case basis."
 
A "consciousness" is a metaphysical aspect. It's basically your mind, which isn't a physical part of your body. Low-Godly is being able to regenerate from any incorporeal aspect of yourself, such as your mind or soul even after your physical body is completely destroyed.
 
Well if we are being technical Mephiles was Solaris' mind and the dude was physical. Now obviously it changed when he merged with Iblis but still. Especially since Solaris' body was not physical and intangible as stated by Eggman, yet the core was not
 
Solaris's first phase has the super-dimensional armor that the super trio needed to blast off to get to his core, where the consciousness is located. The second phase, he's basically non-corporeal with the armor gone but his core is exposed so that his consciousness could be destroyed.
 
I agree with Existance Erasure and the Immunity Idol resistances, for the others yes it was pointed out that Solaris has indeed immeasurable speed and Time Eater Warping Arm Attack is very similar to Golden King's Grotesque Demonic Hand as both attacks ignores the laws of space and time.
 
Then the stuff is good to apply.

I also think Solaris should have both of his matches removed. His loss against Zeno is based on outdated reasoning and he had his temporal omnipresence disabled. His win against Infinite Zamasu is probably a stomp now since Infinite Zamasu can't bypass Low-Godly.
 
It tends to do so if he is higher-dimensional, just that its doesnt show gameplay.

Altought I think it only truly applies if he embodies the h-dimensional concept, but since he is just the God of the sun I also think it doesnt.
 
He's not a conceptual embodiment so he doesn't get the size. He's higher-dimensional because he was described to be a super-dimensional being that exists across time.

If you watch the cutscene where Mephiles and Iblis fuse, you can see Solaris right before he destroys everything, and he's only about building sized.
 
I added Time Eater Existance Erasuse, Shadow Vibration Manip. and the Idol Resistance's.
 
I will research the Time Breaker ability, for Immeasurable i think a little more imput would be needed as upgrading from Infinite to Immeasurable speed is a significant upgrade.
 
It's quite apparent how I feel about the speed (especially with comparing Time Eater to Golden King) but everything else (sans the regen) I agree with.
 
Moving through time through sheer speed needs to be heavily proven. Otherwise it's just time travel. And I can guarantee you that Time Eater doesn't have that proof. And again, Warping Arm Attack is just hitting through a portal.Nothing more, nothing less. The only way it would be immeasurable is through wank.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
There's this cutscene where Sonic uses Time Break and it doesn't slow him down. The slowing him down thing is a gameplay mechanic.
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Yes, also maybe Sonic can chose if it can affect him or not. His Classic version should be able to do the same.
 
@Dark649 I don't think Classic Sonic can do it. He hasn't shown any time manipulation abilities like his Modern counterpart.

@The real cal howard I'm not sure how "heavy" the proof has to be but Tails saying "it goes through time and tears space apart" doesn't sound like regular time travel. Then he followed that up with "when the Sonics accelerate through time they fix space."
 
Does the Invulnerability on Sonic's many profile is as backed up to be actual Inv?

I also agree with the changes in the OP btw.
 
KarmodF said:
I know, but there is any info. on the usage? Since our term for Invulnerability is very strict.
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On here? No, it just has the name of the power-up mentioned on the profiles.

@Blueblur24 I stand corrected.
 
Wasn't Eggman talking to Super Sonic during the Solaris fight? Does that imply Eggman has infinite speed, since his mouth could keep up with the fight??
 
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