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The Phoenix vs Bill Cipher

Bill can Mind hax as the Phoenix got no resistance. The Phoenix's regen could be bypassed by a variety of Bill's new hax such Causality, Physics, and Law Manipulation. Bill would likely win at a mid-to-high difficulty

So, I am voting for Bill
 
@Eficiente

Bill's precog which also falls under his All-time sense make him nigh-omniscient as *Bill Cipher perceives, seen, aware, and has the knowledge of infinite dimensions/timelines, infinite amount of other Bill Ciphers and the infinite variations of what they do in each timeline." It could be argued that it was PIS that he couldn't see his defeat
 
Nedge1000 said:
@Eficiente

Bill's precog which also falls under his All-time sense make him nigh-omniscient as *Bill Cipher perceives, seen, aware, and has the knowledge of infinite dimensions/timelines, infinite amount of other Bill Ciphers and the infinite variations of what they do in each timeline." It could be argued that it was PIS that he couldn't see his defeat
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Or perhaps he was too arrogant to see his defeat could be possible hahahah
 
He's kinda like Pennywise who underestimates mankind. Also Bill FRA
 
His defeat isn't PIS now? Wow. Also he likely takes this given that Phoenix isn't as strong as she may look. She could know her opponents' every thought but I assume that Bill's mindhax resistance prevents that.

She is a higher D-being btw, what does Bill has to affect her?
 
Eficiente said:
His defeat isn't PIS now? Wow. Also he likely takes this given that Phoenix isn't as strong as she may look. She could know her opponents' every thought but I assume that Bill's mindhax resistance prevents that.

She is a higher D-being btw, what does Bill has to affect her?
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It is PIS though right? Like it literally is. We were just saying that he himself not seeing his defeat is down to either PIS or him being too arrogant to actually see himself losing
 
@eficiente true. Although for the record 4D Bill is still something that should be believed. But if we're going off the profiles then yeah Bill can't really get past Phoenix. Don't see Phoenix getting past Bill either, it's range is also Multiversal which isn't great
 
Nedge1000 said:
Bill can Mind hax as the Phoenix got no resistance.
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But the Phoenix had too Mind Manipulation, it could be possibility for her to nullify Bill's mind f**k with her own powers, also the isn't any evidence that suggest that he can mind f**k higher dimensional begins.

Nedge1000 said:
The Phoenix's regen could be bypassed by a variety of Bill's new hax such Causality, Physics, and Law Manipulation.
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Wouldn't the Phoenix be able to counter such ability with her Reality Warping? Pretty sure it would be capable to overcome at least weaker haxes such as Physics Manipulation and Law Manipulation.
 
Bill's got resistance to mindhax as well and how's she going to counter his Low-Godly?
 
Can Bill's Causality, Physics & Law hax work on The Phoenix? Or does it only apply to one reality?
 
Eficiente said:
Can Bill's Causality, Physics & Law hax work on The Phoenix? Or does it only apply to one reality?
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The moment he obtains low 2-C powerhe can break the laws of a univers apart and start "weirdmageddon"
 
He can make them go crazy in a litiral way. The weirdness waves passivly transmutate, madness hax, animate and break apart anything in a randomic way
 
>All of his hax is powered by infinite 4D power

Like everyone at his level, which means nothing.

>And it could affect time itself

Of one universe, super impressive.
 
What are you talking about?

Its hax, what extent of 4D it is isn't inmportant, only that its capable of affeecting 4D characters
 
No. Some thing affecting 4D stuff =/= Bill being able to affect 4D characters with everything.

Affecting time in one universe =/= Affecting a Multiverse with ∞ universes, that is literally a NLF.
 
What are you talking about? A 3-A will still be affected by 3-D hax. Its the same here.


Also, he's chaos manipulation waslitiraly going to destroy infinite universes
 
No? I'm saying that Efi is right

If he has actual feats on this level, no issue
 
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