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Gilgamesh vs Mami

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a second, but last matchup I'll have for Mami that I'll make for now, and I know what you're thinking, "ANOTHER Fate match????? Really??" Well this time she's fighting against the most OP servant out of the bunch, Base Gilgamesh vs Holy Mami, speed equalized.

Gilgamesh: 7

Mami Tomoe: 4

Inconclusive:

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Well,the only option Gil have is Ea,also his mindhax resistance is really good since he deny the mud from All of World Evil so Witch Kiss is ineffective.
 
Serious would also be something like SNI + Ea.

It's so hard to make a good match with him. Base Gil has terrible mindset. Full power Gil has serious mindset with a ton of resistances.
 
I'm on my phone atm so I can't check exact calcs for her AP, but Gil's armor can somewhat withstand Merodach blast, which is High 7-A.
 
I let you do the honours.

However, I do want to bring up this little tadbit.

Gilgamesh: You idiot, did you think I wouldn't have a ship of light among my treasures? Just because I like the classics doesn't mean I don't keep up with recent developments. If there is a technique that sends somebody to the edges of space, then there will be a Noble Phantasm corresponding to it.

If the technique exists (in Fate, not outside the franchise obviously), then Gil has a Noble Phantasm to counter it. Meaning he can counter every single power and ability in Fate, with the (possibly, but extremely likely) exception of True Magic.

So essentially, he can counter almost everything that everyone on this page can do.
 
So does "Serious Gil" means "Ea gg" + conceptual projectile defenses and whatnot or? If yes Mami gets stomped.

If not i suppose that it depends from what he does, since you know, 6-C vs 7-A
 
I'm assuming serious isn't "Automatically bloodlusted"

Although I'm not really sure how Mami gets stomped if he was bloodlusted.
 
Because i'm pretty sure that conceptual defenses > 6-C bullets, his mind resistance > Mami's mind hax, Ea shatters the ribbons alongside space-time, and iirc magic resistance protects from reality warping
 
The only conceptual is Rho Aias which he has never once in literally any form of media I have seen.

Even if he was bloodlusted I highly doubt he'll use it over Ea, which of course, he can't do in the first place.

And I don't remember magic resistance saving you from Reality Warping.
 
I mean, that was the argument in the thread against Samus iirc, and Gil has the same treasury.

Also pretty sure that if bloodlusted he just uses whatever works best due to actually listening to SNI
 
Then it's wank.

So? Gilgamesh wins from that do to Ea attacking faster then she can Ribbon trap and that's it. Assuming it even does in the first place, I'm pretty sure making a gesture is faster then Ea being pulled out of the gate and pulled up.

If we went by that logic every win that Homura has except for Obito would be removed.
 
Most wins that Homura has need to be removed and I simply keep forgetting it, so that's a really bad example
 
No it's closed because she is tier 2 (and most profiles of the opponents are locked as well). I'll do it later when I'll be at home
 
So, we have a serious Gilgamesh here.

1. He will make use of Sha Nagba Imuru, immediately knowing everything about Mami, as well as every possibility. This will allow him to choose the optimal course of action. Right from the beginning, he has huge knowledge advantage.

2. SNI in combination with Ea is the argument we use the most, for a good reason. She cannot survive Ea, therefore it's a win button for him. What is important to mention is that Ea doesn't require some long preparation time. We've seen in Strange Fake that the very action of spinning Ea starts the act of devouring and cracking of reality, with Void spilling everywhere. It's also worth mentioning that he is holding Ea, while everything around him is devoured, which does mean that things like projectiles would be devoured as well. And Ea has no effect on him, even though some his other weapons are shown capable of harming him (such as the light from Merodach). Pulling Ea from GoB is easy and fast enough to the point it's not worth mentioning.

3. I imagine his mind manipulation resistance is strong enough to negate Mami's mind manipulation. He doesn't have an answer to reality warping, though. Reality warping is something Divine Spirits are capable of doing, and I don't remember him having anything to counter that, since it doesn't fall under normal magic he resists, if I remember correctly. I'm not sure what we consider as normal magic anymore, seeing as we started treating Time Stop as True Magic and not normal magic.

Overall, I think this is enough for him to win, depending on what Mami starts with. There is also Ship of Light for lolz.
 
She most likely starts either with summoning threads beneath him, or reality warping, or mind hax (all of them are on thought).

And yes, his mind resistance is more than enough
 
So, I just reread Mami's doppel's description, and it appears that it acts indipendently from Mami herself, while she keeps fighting as usual. So, she will have 2 leading moves, one is her own and the other is the doppel's, meaning that there's a 50% chanche of the latter leading with reality warping. Even then, if she starts with mind hax it only takes a second thought to switch to reality warping. How long does pulling EA take?
 
Mami isn't going to instantly make a couple of thoughts and spam Hax the instant the fight starts.
 
RKGenki said:
So, I just reread Mami's doppel's description, and it appears that it acts indipendently from Mami herself
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It's the doppel that would try both, and a couple of seconds are more than enough. Mami doesn't control it directly, and while she won't spam hax, the doppel would as it is basically a witch.
 
Taking out Ea would require a simple hand movement.

He can spam hundreds of weapons at the same time. She has no way of knowing whether those weapons would be lethal to her, so unless she has suicidal traits, she would probably want to first take care of that and protect herself.
 
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