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Forcefields way above their paygrade + fake body + intangibility coupled with attack reflecting bullet spam are more than enough. Also her durability is possibly on par with her tier in this form.
 
If it carries a concept it's conceptual, doesn't matter what people think.

Anyway, her durability is irrelevant. She cannot know if any of these weapons are able to kill her. She has to take care of them, a lot of them, which is an action that takes time. Meanwhile Gil can do both GoB spam and Ea draw + rotation at the same time, which results in a game over for her.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Meaning he can counter every single power and ability in Fate, with the (possibly, but extremely likely) exception of True Magic.

So essentially, he can counter almost everything that everyone on this page can do.
>Implying he can counter Nega-Summon

>Implying GoB has stuff that counters Gods Authorities
 
So maybe I missed it above.

Why Mami can't summon the ribbons while he summons Ea?

If he is bound by them, he can't use his powers, and it works on equipment based stuff too.
 
Magia Record Candeloro (and by extension Holy Mami/Florence) doesn't need to bind people completely to power null them btw.

She power null people just by slapping them with ribbons, so pretty sure that the effect is on contact.
 
Kaltias said:
She power null people just by slapping them with ribbons, so pretty sure that the effect is on contact.
Lol, she'd be like those fancy people slapping commoners with her glove, but instead it's ribbons.
 
Anyway, her durability is irrelevant. She cannot know if any of these weapons are able to kill her. She has to take care of them, a lot of them, which is an action that takes time.

And the doppel is going to do nothing in the meantime... Because? As I said for the 4th time, they're independent from each other, while he takes care of them (and I'm pretty sure that making a thought is faster than starting the spam) the doppel rips Gil apart. Even if it decides to start with mind manip, it doesn't take much to switch to reality warping. It's not like it's gonna say "Oh so mind manip doesn't work, let's wait a minute before trying the one other thing that a witch usually does because why not?"

Meanwhile Gil can do both GoB spam and Ea draw + rotation at the same time, which results in a game over for her.

And she can summon ribbons/take care of the spam + mind manip/reality warp at the same time
 
So would anyone be so kind to address Gil being power nulled on contact from something that comes out of the terrain beneath him.

Also, a single bullet blows up several dozens of weapons fired by GoB at once (she is 6-C passively while focusing most of her power into something else), so if anything, Gil is the one who should be worried by attack spam.
 
After looking through numerous Nasuverse threads, I stopped taking the word "concept" at face value.

As of voting, count me for Mami via AP advantage, power null & her Doppel.
 
Kaltias said:
So would anyone be so kind to address Gil being power nulled on contact from something that comes out of the terrain beneath him.
Precog telling him to get in the air
 
@Monarch

Doesn't he need to use a special NP for that? Can he use it before the ribbons touch him?
 
Uhm, he can just use the Ship of Light. Why take the slow Vimana when you have that. Just use that to get somewhere safe, while spamming GoB, and nuke everything with Ea.
 
Gonna vote for Gil for reasons above. I'm fairly certain his precog will tell him to get off the ground ASAP, and given how high other servants are capable of jumping, he'd be able to get enough time to conjure his ship and just start nuking everything until he pulls Ea.
 
He needs to pull the ship out of GoB, no?

High jumping is also extremely irrelevant against Mami or she wouldn't have won a single fight in canon
 
The Ship is vague apart from its speed capabilities and the fact that its deployment has to be quite fast, seeing as he deployed it the moment before Hakuno was about to be erased by the Moon Cell.
 
Kaltias said:
He needs to pull the ship out of GoB, no?

High jumping is also extremely irrelevant against Mami or she wouldn't have won a single fight in canon
High jump + precog though

None of the people she trapped had 2-C precog telling them what was about to happen and theexact necessary movements to dodge
 
Yeah but one of them knew her entire power set, personality, fighting style etc.

Also that's assuming that the Doppel doesn't start with reality warping, because in that case all the futures go the same way, aka Gil's limbs being reality warped away from his body
 
And that one didn't expect Mami to just summon the ribbons beneath her either. Knew she could is completely different to knows she will, when she will and how she will and the exact actions needed to avoid it

Yeah, but witches basically never do that.

The only time one did it in the original series was to play with Madoka, and Madoka (a normal human at this time with no ability to pull herself back together from reality warping) went back to normal the moment Elly was distracted with more important business, aka Sayaka appearing.

Now apply that to this fight, except "Sayaka appearing" is "Ea being charged shatters space-time" or "hundreds of dura ignoring weapons are fired at Mami", seeing as both work with a thought (Ea can be charged the moment it is summoned, and all of GoB's portals and firing abilities work by thought)
 
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