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The Eurasian Underworld Wars between the 11th demon goddess of Rhinne and future Vongola Decimo (Tsunayoshi Sawada vs Tanya Degurechaff)

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Introductio

The militiary and mafia,this hellish job always contrasting each other due of their morality from people,military indicated an heroic and justice of good while mafia indicated as dirty job of some organization of underwolrd,where criminally is spreading.....But how if that morality reversed? If yes then we got what we see here,and soldier girl who didn't care for justice and knowed by her sadistic and evilonious attitude towards enemy,then there is a boy who is future candidate of legendary mafia boss who is too kind for called maifa. Now they meet each other for seeking an victory of their representative,and their country,this is the war of militiary and mafia who reversed they morality!!!

Character

  • Tsunayoshi Sawada
Tsuna main
Tier: 7-C
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight, Sky Flame Manipulation, Forcefield Creation, Absorption (Can absorb the flames of his opponents and convert it into his energy), Ice Manipulation with Zero Point Breakthrough: First Edition, Limited Precognition with Hyper Intuition


  • Tanya Degurechaff
Tanya degurechaff and viktoriya ivanovna serebryakov youjo senki drawn by rungsak sontayanont 7bb511bd82b27995f43fcc8961f49cbd
Tier: 8-C to 7-C, likely higher

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight, Marksmanship, Superhuman Augmentation, Explosion Manipulation (Could make bullets explode with the power of a nuke, Telekinesis, Expert knife/bayonet user (Casually sliced a plane and stabbed others midflight), Distortion of Space (As a side effect of various spells, however doesn't deal damage or has otherwise practicle use), Danmaku (Via spells), Homing Attacks, Illusion Creation, Can create magical blades so that she can cut humans in half with bare hands, Extrasensory Perception (Can sense magic and might recognize its wavelength to conclude what it does. Useful for Aimdodging), Pain Manipulation (Can use a neural interference spell that simulates pain)


Conditio

  • Varia arc Tsuna is used and this is 7-C version of Tanya
  • Both in character
  • Speed equalized
  • Range is 50 meter
  • Place located in Napoli,Italy
  • Win via death!!!
Battle theme

Vote


  • Tsuna: 7 (Bold,Man,Astral,Kagami,Emp,Ricsi,Zack)
  • Tanya: 3 (XXS,Hst,COB)
  • Inconclusive: 1 (Jimboy)
Note: Let's see what happen,an demonic loli girl as soldier vs an boy with an strange gloves who is candidate of maifa boss,who win!!!?
 
Hmm... I'm not familiar with Tanya here. But judging from her profile. She have advantage on having great range attack. While this version of Tsuna still haven't any ranged attacks. he need to come clost to Tanya first, which gave him disadvantage here.

Her ranged attacks seem to be hard to withstand, something like homing attack ,distort space and dispose oxygenmake her have more arsenal. Tsuna seem like to shouldn't be able to survive all of this even with is Hyper Intuition. Even Tsuna can freeze or absorb some of her attacks. but look like Tanya's ranged arsenal attacks still have more versatility to took down Tsuna before he can get close to her.

So, I feel like Tanya get this for now.
 
Tanya fra

I doubt that Tsuna can keep up with Danmaku in this version of himself, he'd be struggling to get close. Along with any nearby Oxygen being taken care of leaves him in a tough situation.
 
Tanya will mantain an obvious distance, while tsuna can dodge alot of the attacks with his agility (and hyper intuition), and has the durability enough to resist Tanya normal shots, so the only attack she/he have is the nuke bullet and the suicide attack, also needing pre for her nuke attack and for the suicidal attack Tanya have the risk of getting freeze, so depending of one the distance Tsuna would be able to attack her mid pre.

My vote is Tsuna high diff
 
Tsuna likely has the edge here due to hyper intuition helping him with the danmaku blasts and eventually using zero point breakthrough.
 
Tsuna cause of pre cog and can absorb her attacks and turn them into energy and her illusions are useless cause of of hyper intuition
 
I'm still waiting for the Youjo Senki nerd's to come here,anyway time to count!

-Tanya: 3 (XXS,Ricsi,Hst)

-Tsuna: 4 (Bold,Astral,Kagami,Man)
 
The way I see it those aren't enough to make it so Tsuna wins.

The range issue whether he can react to it or not leaves him still very vulnerable to someone who has airborne movement superiority. This would also make Zero Point very hard to reach Tanya considering her favored strategy of keeping the hell away from an opponent.

Aren't illusions and decoys effective against his hyper intuition? Says so on his profile.

The last time Tanya used her pre nuke attack, was when she was so far up the sky she can't be seen conventionally anymore. Considering Tsuna only has hundreds of meters vs Tanya's miles, that's a big issue. Also, precog is nice, but not so nice when your enemy has a huge as hell area of effect attack that would seriously cripple the environment and leave you lacking for oxygen.

Though it is hard, I believe Tanya can pull off the win.
 
One of them is more proficient at flying though as in spent her life flying, I'd give it to her. The aerial superiority. Also still the issue of range.
 
Is that feat calcable? Should we assume baseline or is there some in verse scaling that would clearly place her above baseline?

I am not very familiar with the character outside of seeing a few clips of her on youtube.
 
Word of advice Vel, might wanna respond to the people asking questions on your threads.

Anyway @ Lith, it is, but at the same time I'm not sure if anyone asked for a calc yet or not. I don't think you have to assume baseline considering its durability bypassing capabilities
 
@Core

It bypassing durability doesn't mean it has higher AP. There are plenty of lower tier characters with durability negating attacks capable of affecting higher tier characters. Take Kwon Shi-Yu for example, who was able to use her limited durability negation against the guild leader, even though she was only 8-A and the guild leader was far superior, Likely Low 7-C.

Again, unless there's scaling involved that puts her above baseline, or a calc, I'm going to assume baseline until otherwise informed.
 
? Yeah. Thats true. Everything you said is right. That's basic. Why are you giving me a lesson on that when everyone should know that?

But Im confused... Because if it hits it's going to kill Tsuna either way.

On another hand... Theres an unwritten rule about doing matches with characters waiting for a calc anyway.
 
I mean, it's easy to forget. I do it all the time.

But yeah, I'd just like to know the AP. Typically characters without calcs are assumed to be baseline from what I've seen.

I also think Tanya holds air superiority. Not to the point that Tsuna can do nothing, but that she can fly up much farther, and has far more experience. Which should help greatly.

But I would like to know the AP difference, if at all possible.
 
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