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Classic sonic vs kid goku should be removed

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This thread should be removed not only did I repeatedly debunk all the reasoning as to say goku wins but classic sonic was heavily underestimated here as well.

One of the reasons goku won was of because of AP, however the difference in ap is only a 1.3 difference so isn't even a significant amount to make a huge difference. Not only that but sonic has forcefeilds to help absorb the attack. At most it might knock him back but that's pretty much it.

Two was the nimbus cloud, the only time goku has ever used the nimbus cloud in combat was to either fight an opponent who was already flying,Tambourine , notice how in this fight tambourine is already flying so it would make sense for goku to use the nimbus cloud inorder to reach him. Not only that but he fought him up close and not from a distance so there goes the whole goku can just fly and shoot down ki blasts, which this version can't even do. Due to kamehameha's taking time to use.

Next is the power pole, now the power pole goku does use in combat however not the way stated in this thread. Same with the nimbus cloud goku has never used it to abuse range but to instead reach an opponent who was far from him examples being, Pterodactyl 1, Pterodactyl 2, and Boss rabbit. In the video goku isn't fighting from a distance because he wants to but is instead doing so to reach opponents out of his reach.

Now I know this is in a content revision thread and not a vs battle removal, I did this to not derail that thread and so that it could be discuss here instead.
 
Sounds like a very salty thread, but...

"One of the reasons goku won was of because of AP, however the difference in ap is only a 1.3 difference so isn't even a significant amount to make a huge difference. "

A 1.3x Difference is still a difference. If Sonic and Goku landed equal amounts of hits against eachother, say 10 hits, Goku would've had amassed the equivalent of 3 more hits than Sonic even though they hit eachother the same amount.

"Two was the nimbus cloud, the only time goku has ever used the nimbus cloud in combat was to either fight an opponent who was already flying,Tambourine"

Goku also used Nimbus as a fly-by attack to smack people with the Power Pole. So.... yeah.

"Not only that but he fought him up close and not from a distance so there goes the whole goku can just fly and shoot down ki blasts, which this version can't even do. Due to kamehameha's taking time to use."

Dude, Goku's kamehameha even back then took AT MAXIMUM 5 seconds to do. With Anime Time, it's even faster and Manga's Kamehamehas only take 2-3 panels MAX.

"Next is the power pole, now the power pole goku does use in combat however not the way stated in this thread. Same with the nimbus cloud goku has never used it to abuse range but to instead reach an opponent who was far from him examples being, Pterodactyl 1, Pterodactyl 2, and Boss rabbit. In the video goku isn't fighting from a distance because he wants to but is instead doing so to reach opponents out of his reach.'

Problem. All of your examples was Goku fighting complete fodders and not legitimate enemies.And have you seriously never seen Goku use power pole extend to smash people's faces in and impale them? Like, none of the Red Ribbon arc at all?


And even if you claim to have quote "Debunked" all the pro-Goku arguments, if the majority says otherwise then it doesn't matter even if you look back in two or three years and still say "Yeah, I'm still right!"
 
A 1.3x difference is really much to give a chaeacter a win though especially not if said character has durability negating hax like indigo asteroid and transmutation.

Ok but in a fight how many times has he done that or better yet how many times has he used it to abuse range. Goku majority of the time fights up close so him using it like that would be out of character.

This is the 22nd budokai goku right and it was stated that it would take to long for it to load up before he used it. Not only that but against a character like sonic who can also increase his speed and dodge it via time break those few seconds will matter here. And it was also stated that he couldn't just spam ki blasts because of this reasoning.

Those were examples that were talked about in the thread so That's why i used them. And the thing again is goku doesn't use his pole to fight from a distance enlist it is to reach a far away opponent or to get closer to them.

Actually it does matter especially when the votes for goku willingly tried to debunk sonic's transmutation with game mechanics. Need I remind you "sonic's transmutation can't transmute weapons" despite me literally posting a video showing just that or how about it only working on weaker opponents last time I check goku has no resistance to transmutation.

Just because the majority says otherwise doesn't mean they are correct. Because these same reason should have won goku his other fights as well but didn't.
 
How 'bout you bring this up to this thread? This thread is meant for removing incorrect threads. read the rules on the thread then post the thread you want to remove and your reason as to why. Might want to delete this thread after, it's kind of unneeded.
 
Also your link to the thread you want removed isn't working, I had to go through the character profiles to find it. If it's not just an error on my end, then maybe try making it an external link instead (if you haven't that is). Could most likely just be me, but you never know.
 
Thanks for your input. I am going to move it to that thread and fix the link.
 
Goku's 1.5x difference may not make it a stomp, it's still a significant difference that Goku can severely damage Sonic while Sonic can at best chip damage Goku. Goku leads with Power Pole and has massive range advantage, while Sonic leads with homing attack which gives Goku full opportunity to Homerun him. Sonic has only been shown to transmute fodder robots, and he doesn't use it in character; not against biological lifeforms he does not.

Anyway, I'm closing this as it seems more like a personal vendetta rather than a serious debate; which is not important.
 
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