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Puella Magi AP revisions

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Title says it all. Given that Patricia has a 50 megatons feat, we have stuff to revise.

Also, i thought about how the tiering system is structured right now, and there are some assumptions that i think should be changed..

Either way:

In-Verse Tiering System
0: Low 7-C scaling from Homura as it already is.

0.5: 7-C scaling from Sayaka's durability which scales from Elly's AP.

1: Also 7-C.

1.5: At least 7-C

Based on Sayaka one shotting Elly.

2-2.5: No quantifiable feat that i recall here. Honestly Unknown may be the best given that it could be anywhere between 7-C and 7-B.

3: 7-B (Albeit a lower degree compared to Patricia's calc)

Scaling from Kyoko who can match False Sayaka somewhat (Who is able to harm her).

3.5: 7-B+

Scaling from Madoka who easily deflected Patricia's attacks with her owns (Note that Patricia's feat is borderline 7-B+ and is performed just by being born, Madoka is stronger).

4: At least 7-B+, possibly 7-A.

The reason being that those magical girls are significantly stronger than those rated as 4, who themselves are stronger than someone who perform a feat that's borderline 7-B+, just by being born.

4.5: At least 7-A

Scaling from Mami/Elisa .

Mami one shot False Kyoko, whose durability is far above Ophelia's, whose durability is far above Kyoko's, who is rated 3.5 in durability.

Elisa was depicted as far above a restricted Tart (See below).

Other stuff
Oktavia becomes 7-B for the same reason why she is Low 7-B to 7-B right now.

Post-Cannibalism Kazumi becomes "At least 7-B+" because she is >>>>>>>> Oktavia, also it was stated that stopping her would need all the Pleiades Saints.

MagiReco magical girls get "At least 7-B+" as well (Kamihama witches >>>>> Oktavia). Yachiyo i dunno. Maybe "At least 7-B+, likely 7-A" given that she is far superior to most magical girls of Kamihama.

Lapin's durabilty as a witch becomes "At least 7-B+, possibly 7-A" because it's >>>>>>>>>>>> her durabilty that's already borderline 7-B+.

Restricted Tart becomes 7-A via one shotting Lapin's witch form.

False Mami and Mami's ribbons become "At least 7-A+". LoC Sayaka as well.

Homura's basic weapons become " At least 7-B" (One shot Oktavia).

Ophelia's durability becomes 7-A because it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kyoko's.

Charlotte's durability becomes "At least 7-A" scaling from Mami.

Stuff discussed below
7-A/High 7-A people stay as they are, only Mami and Elisa become "Mountain level+" and Candeloro becomes "At least Mountain level+, likely higher"

Stuff that needs to be added from old revisions
Portal Creation to every magical girl

"Self-Resurrection (Able to resurrect from her Grief Seed, although this isn't applicable for combat unless the Grief Seed is filled with despair)" and "Immunity to Soul Manipulation (Lacks a soul)" to every witch
 
Tfw Mami's degree of 7-A which actually started all of this remains almost unchanged
 
Although tbh, arguably False Mami could remain High 7-A.

Ophelia's durabilty is around baseline 7-A with this scaling.

Ophelia's durability is far lower than False Kyoko's.

Mami one shot False Kyoko as soon as she managed to land a shot (She couldn't before due to the massive speed gap and time stop)

Candeloro is so ridiculously above Mami that it isn't even funny.

False Mami is immensely above Candeloro.

Mami's AP is also = Elisa's who one shot a witch who shrugged off an attack from restricted Tart.
 
It's kinda like KLK.

Just replace Ophelia's durability with MK2 Gamagori's, a COVER's with False Kyoko's, MK3 Gamagori's AP with Mami's, Candeloro with Ryuko and False Mami with Ragyo
 
@Kal

I was about to point out the same thing later, I fully agree with false Mami remainung at High 7-A.

Everything else looks fine.
 
Does this make Mami 7-A+?

I mean Nonon is rated that way and the scaling is basically the same
 
I agree with the upgrades. Kinda want to see some feats from characters with a 6 or higher on the In-Verse Tiering System now.
 
I want to see a statement that says magical girl Madoka > final form Tart because the opposite doesn't make sense.

And there isn't really anyone rated above 6 iirc (Except Tart)
 
We really need a direct statement for that.

We can stretch our current informations all we want, but FF Tart being stated to not be a magical girl invalidates all proofs (excluding logic, but that's not enough)
 
Years later Madoka finally gets the statement of being stronger than Final Form Tart. However, that's only in raw power and not speed therefore she still gets speedblitzed ovo

You forgot third timeline Madoka
 
I know. I definitely won't argue High 3-A infinite speed for four different people without solid evidence.

It's just weird. Tart is kinda like Infinite Zamasu before we knew about Jiren.

The fact that she is OP is right, the fact that she is above every 3-D character isn't

Third timeline Madoka is rated 6, not above that ovo
 
No.

Kyubey says that final timeline Madoka >>>>>>>>>> every other magical girl.

Final form Tart is an irregular, not a magical girl.
 
Technicaly there could be a case for UKG and AoC, as the former when born already had Tart's despair, and AoC (and this is really stretching it too much) via having possibly copied her stats.

Sadly nothing can be done for Madoka.

@Homu Tart was stated to not be a magical girl anymore, so she's left out from that statement.
 
@Kal Well there's still fourth timeline and above Madoka ovo

@Homu I'm pretty sure it's becuase Final Form Tart wasn't a magical girl anymore. So we weren't sure if Madoka is stronger than her.
 
Madoka being that many times stronger than Planet lvl would make her somewhere around Multi-Solar System Lvl right or is it Galaxy Lvl?
 
iirc that should be somewhere in tier 4-A.

And that should also be a lowball, as if it is based on that calc Kal made a while ago it assumes a multiplier of 2× between timelines, which is an absurd lowball as she goes from tier 7 to tier 5 in 3-4 timelines

How many times have I said this?
 
It would be like, four orders of magnitude above baseline 4-A, give or take.

Clearly we aren't making her 4-A but it's still a funny thing.
 
Yeah I'm pretty sure with every timeline Madoka literally gets at least over 100x stronger than before lowballing it. So I'm pretty sure if we took her timeline multipliers literally she would be many many times stronger than baseline 3-A. Probably one of the strongest 3-A in raw power on the site.
 
I mean if we went five timelines = 26 extra digits, her Joules count would be 500+ orders of magnitudes.

Let's stop derailing though
 
Yes. In the end Mami is a different degree of 7-A and that's about it when it comes to the high tiers
 
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