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Upscaling
Basically, i think that there is enough proof to say that the powers of a magical girl/witch, should be considered effective on their level by default.
First, we have UKG, whose curses grew stronger (Going from Low 2-C to 2-A) as she herself grew stronger.
Then we have Tart, who literally became infinitely stronger due to Riz twisting her fate.
It happened earlier with Melissa as well.
Kazumi's power literally causes other magical girls to evolve.
It's also very strongly implied by Magia Record due to Mitama being able to boost other magical girls, as well as the fact that they need to have abilities that work on other magical girls efficiently given that they are all about on par. Holy Mami also implies that, given that after being upgraded she surpassed limitations of the other Magia Record magical girls such as being unable to summon the Doppel without heavy strain for themselves/danger.
Last but not least, in the main series Kyubey explains that "the latent ability of a magical girl is determined by the relative effect of their role or fate".
Witches Additions
Witches can resurrect from the Grief Seed (See Charlotte and all the witches created by Isabeau). Using the Grief Seed speeds up the process.
Familiars become witches if they eat 4-5 people. And they become just like the original.
Witches are soulless, When a magical girl turns into a witch, the Soul Gem breaks. See Sayaka and Madoka (It's easier to notice it with UKG). So they should get Immunity to Soul Manipulation
Madoka Additions
As stated here (Go to page 198 notes) the magical girls absorbed by Madoka become a part of her.
Out of all the magical girls who had become a part of God, the ones that Homura knows have the mission of a huge event like an instant awakening from a long, long dream.
Thus she would get their abilities.WoG confirms that it happens to every magical girl(Check episode 12 commentary).
There is this thing that surprisingly became a talking point -- "The Law of Circular Path". That actually means "the ending that will, without exception, visit the girls who embraced hope and chose to take up the destiny of becoming a mahou shoujo." It is not something Mami-san coined herself, but something like an oral tradition that was passed along among mahou shoujo in that world. And so at that place and time, the only one who could not understand at all after hearing those words was Homura. Kyoko also knew and probably Sayaka in that world had also heard those words before.
As we already know, LoC assistants are both magical girl and witch at the same time (Nagisa literally spends half of Rebellion as Charlotte), so Madoka gets the ability of both forms.
She should probably get Doppel abilities as well, given that a Doppel is pretty much magical girl + witch and Madoka contains both.
UKG Additions
UKG gets all witch abilities given that she is the despair of all magical girls basically making her a composite witch (Stated here, translation here). No Doppel abilities for her though, she doesn't contain the magical girls.
Top tiers AP upgrade
Easy enough. Final Timeline Madoka and everyone who scales from her should be "At least Planet level+, likely far higher". For reference, Madoka got 95 power boosts since she became 5-B, the smallest one being a boost of three orders of magnitude (7-C to 7-B)
The gap between low and high end 5-B is 45,5 times. If those massive power boosts are as low as a boost of 4,1% each time (Which is stupidly small) we are already in the upper half of 5-B.
Given that the boost is obviously bigger, "At least 5-B, likely far higher" is honestly the best bet. This applies to Final Timeline Madoka, False Madoka, AoC, and Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen
Homulilly range upgrade
Here (Check episode 12 commentary). It says that Homura isn't in Japan anymore, but we know that Homulilly affected Mami and Kyoko who were in Japan. Thus her range should be "Thousands of kilometres".
My intention when I wrote the screenplay was: The location is not Japan and Homura's fight just goes on. But I think it is fine for all the fans to come up with their own interpretation. There is even conjecture that "this is without doubt the world after humanity was annihilated." It is still a valid interpretation.
I'm not sure however, given that it's supposed to be up for interpretation.
Basically, i think that there is enough proof to say that the powers of a magical girl/witch, should be considered effective on their level by default.
First, we have UKG, whose curses grew stronger (Going from Low 2-C to 2-A) as she herself grew stronger.
Then we have Tart, who literally became infinitely stronger due to Riz twisting her fate.
It happened earlier with Melissa as well.
Kazumi's power literally causes other magical girls to evolve.
It's also very strongly implied by Magia Record due to Mitama being able to boost other magical girls, as well as the fact that they need to have abilities that work on other magical girls efficiently given that they are all about on par. Holy Mami also implies that, given that after being upgraded she surpassed limitations of the other Magia Record magical girls such as being unable to summon the Doppel without heavy strain for themselves/danger.
Last but not least, in the main series Kyubey explains that "the latent ability of a magical girl is determined by the relative effect of their role or fate".
Witches Additions
Witches can resurrect from the Grief Seed (See Charlotte and all the witches created by Isabeau). Using the Grief Seed speeds up the process.
Familiars become witches if they eat 4-5 people. And they become just like the original.
Witches are soulless, When a magical girl turns into a witch, the Soul Gem breaks. See Sayaka and Madoka (It's easier to notice it with UKG). So they should get Immunity to Soul Manipulation
Madoka Additions
As stated here (Go to page 198 notes) the magical girls absorbed by Madoka become a part of her.
Out of all the magical girls who had become a part of God, the ones that Homura knows have the mission of a huge event like an instant awakening from a long, long dream.
Thus she would get their abilities.WoG confirms that it happens to every magical girl(Check episode 12 commentary).
There is this thing that surprisingly became a talking point -- "The Law of Circular Path". That actually means "the ending that will, without exception, visit the girls who embraced hope and chose to take up the destiny of becoming a mahou shoujo." It is not something Mami-san coined herself, but something like an oral tradition that was passed along among mahou shoujo in that world. And so at that place and time, the only one who could not understand at all after hearing those words was Homura. Kyoko also knew and probably Sayaka in that world had also heard those words before.
As we already know, LoC assistants are both magical girl and witch at the same time (Nagisa literally spends half of Rebellion as Charlotte), so Madoka gets the ability of both forms.
She should probably get Doppel abilities as well, given that a Doppel is pretty much magical girl + witch and Madoka contains both.
UKG Additions
UKG gets all witch abilities given that she is the despair of all magical girls basically making her a composite witch (Stated here, translation here). No Doppel abilities for her though, she doesn't contain the magical girls.
Top tiers AP upgrade
Easy enough. Final Timeline Madoka and everyone who scales from her should be "At least Planet level+, likely far higher". For reference, Madoka got 95 power boosts since she became 5-B, the smallest one being a boost of three orders of magnitude (7-C to 7-B)
The gap between low and high end 5-B is 45,5 times. If those massive power boosts are as low as a boost of 4,1% each time (Which is stupidly small) we are already in the upper half of 5-B.
Given that the boost is obviously bigger, "At least 5-B, likely far higher" is honestly the best bet. This applies to Final Timeline Madoka, False Madoka, AoC, and Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen
Homulilly range upgrade
Here (Check episode 12 commentary). It says that Homura isn't in Japan anymore, but we know that Homulilly affected Mami and Kyoko who were in Japan. Thus her range should be "Thousands of kilometres".
My intention when I wrote the screenplay was: The location is not Japan and Homura's fight just goes on. But I think it is fine for all the fans to come up with their own interpretation. There is even conjecture that "this is without doubt the world after humanity was annihilated." It is still a valid interpretation.
I'm not sure however, given that it's supposed to be up for interpretation.
