Puella Magi misc revisions 3

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Hey Kal, If all the abilities get upscaled, does that includes the Familiar summoning? Can she summon 2-A familiars then?

 

[Kaltias]

No

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Awwwww

 

[Holyhotsauce]

How big will UKG's Wall of Text be after the changes are applied?

Smaller than Madoka's actually because she doesn't get Doppel stuff

You know as well as me that this won't last forever, some obscure scan will prove that UKG gets the Doppel stuff as well.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I'm just waiting for the obscure scan that proves UKG and Madoka are in a constant power loop where Madoka grows stronger than UKG due to her wish to personally defeat all witches and then UKG grows stronger in response because a witch is always stronger than its magical girl self.

 

[Kaltias]

I wonder if there is a statement that says Madoka is lack of mind.

If that's indirectly referred to Homura mind haxing Madoka, we can already safely say that she doesn't need a brain to mindhax, or anything like that (concepts don't have a brain).

Then i'd tell you that it's honestly a stretch to say that a computer is harder to mindhax than "destroying witches" especially when said computer thinks on its own, is sentient etc meaning that it has something analoug to a consciousness (which is like always the case when you are arguing mind hax on robots), but the majority disagree with me on that so.

 

[Kaltias]

Oh right, also people with mind hax leagues below Homura's can mind hax magical girls meaning that they mind hax Soul Gems.

So that's another reason for not needing a brain.

 

[SomebodyData]

Well soul gems are technically Incubator tech so...

But yeah, it seems iffy that a sentient computer > abstract concept in terms of difficultly to mind hax.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

So....Does that means even regular witches can mindscrew DA Digimon?

 

[Kaltias]

No. First, regular witches can't mind hax magical girls. Rumors can, Homulilly can.

Second, DA Digimons literally lack the part that should be controlled in the most literal sense.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

The changes have been applied, I guess this can be closed.

 

[RKGenki]

Just a question before closing this

Did you add all abilities from magi reco magical girls? Some that I haven't seen on Madoka's profile are:

Passive luck manip (from tsuruno SPOILER iirc it let her avoid part of the effects of yachiyo's fate manip)

Alina's barrier creation

Phasing (I think?) From Kagami Masara

These are just the first ones that came to my mind, there should be a lot more

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Emphatic manip from Mayu Kozue.

 

[RKGenki]

I think emphatic manip is already on the profile

 

[SomebodyData]

There is also Resistance to Time Stop from Iroha's sister and from the Homuras in Bar Akemi.

Also, felt like this may have been ignored, but UKG is formed of the despair of all magical girls, which would still include doppels (They are literally formed from the despair of magical girls and are raw emotional beings, interestingly similar to familiars)

 

[RKGenki]

I... think you're right, we should probably wait and see what kal thinks about this, but still I agree with you

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Doesn't UKG has cosmic awareness? She is Madoka counterpart after all.

 

[SomebodyData]

She should given she has her memories.

 

[Kaltias]

UKG is nigh-omniscient, cosmic awareness is redundant.

I suppose that she can get Doppel stuff too

 

[Holyhotsauce]

UKG is nigh-omniscient, cosmic awareness is redundant.
I suppose that she can get Doppel stuff too

Yay.

 

[Kaltias]

@RK

I added those that have a profile here. I'll add more in the future

 

[RKGenki]

Ah ok

 

[Kaltias]

Btw Madoka already has barrier creation.

Where are passive luck manipulation and phasing mentioned? Can't find them

 

[RKGenki]

Alina's barrier creation is a bit different, as she can encase enemies in them

Probably is more akin to pocket reality manip, as she created barriers to keep witches and rumors inside

Luck iirc was mentioned in the main story and somewhere I don't remember

Phasing is Masara's own ability (unless I'm misremembering and it was simply becoming invisible to sneak upon enemies, I remember reading it on her page on the puella magi wiki, but her abilities section is now blank)

 

[Kaltias]

Well Madoka already has pocket reality manip (Scaling from the witches).

I need a quote first (I trust you but i can't add it without a quote/scan or something)

If it was removed, it could be a mistranslation or something so let's wait

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Masara is leaning towarda invinsibility to me. But it is pretty damn good since she is invinsible to people who can see the invisible.

 

[RKGenki]

This is all I found about Tsuruno's luck

Yachiyo: -I, who wished to "be a survivor" in order to continue being the leader...-

-I was "allowed to live" in order to continue being the leader...-

[back to the museum]

Yachiyo: "And if that's the case, like your healing powers..."

"Tsuruno's good luck... Mifuyu's illusions..."

"My own personal magic is like this..."

I remember reading that her luck saved her from discovering the truth about witches due to having something else to do, so she couldn't join yachiyo and the others that day, if I can't find it probably it was a speculation or something like that

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I think we should add Resistance to Curse Manipulation on conceptual level to Wraith (Puella Magi Madoka Magica), False Madoka and ,Avatar of Calamity profile, since this kind of resistance is pretty important given that it is on conceptual level. Wraiths were conceptually built to consume the curse after all. And the reason UKG can lolnope the resistance was because she is 4-D while the resistance is 3-D.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Geez

Just gimme some more soul hax for the 7-Bs and I'll be throwing PM against Masadaverse

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

For who? Nasu or Masada?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

For the magical girls

Give them more soul hax so they can take down Low-Godly. Also make it really really good soul hax so I don't see "lol1000souldensityarmournegated"

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Would soul hax that can affect soulless being be enough to bypass that?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

...

That's weird

I dunno

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Hey, what happens to Homulilly range?

 

[Kaltias]

I suppose that something like thousands of kilometres should be good.

Someone else will have to implement it tho, i'm busy

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I'm free right now. I can do it if you unlock the profile.

What do you think about the resistance I propose above?

 

[Kaltias]

Go ahead.

I dunno

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Done. You can lock it again.

 

[Kaltias]

..... The barrier is definitely not thousands of kilometers

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Is that so? my bad then. I will revert it back.

I also have edited Homu dura with barrier.