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Zeno Resistances
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Jackythejack
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I mean...
That sounds right-
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So Resistance to Gravity, Power Nullification, Empathic Manipulation, Absorption, Telekinesis, Poison, Paralysis Inducement, Mind Manipulation, Time Stop, Heat, Absolute Zero, Void Manipulation.
Did I missed anything?
Did I missed anything?
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NLF. There is no indication that Stone Spit, Magic Touch, or Evil Containment Wave would not work on him. Also, Super Shenron has been stated by the guy who knows everything in Universe 7 to be capable of granting "any wish with no limits", so he should be able to kill Zeno.
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How the heck is it a NLF? The premiere authority on the Universe says nothing can harm or otherwise kill Zeno and Whis repeatedly reinforces how undefeatable Zeno is. If something as readily available as Mafuuba (Which Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks knows) or Whis/Beerus' Sealing (Which is even better than Mafuuba) is able to seal Zeno, why would he be a threat?Frieza force soldier 100 said:
Also Stone Spit falls under Transmutation (Petrification is a sub-power of it) and that's resisted via Buu. Again if something as readily available as Buu's Transmutation is able to defeat Zeno, there's absolutely 0 reason why Whis wouldn't bring that up.
Magic Touch has shown to be resisted so no.
Super Shenron is literally the only being in the verse even POSSIBLY able to be near Zeno in terms of power, which means absolutely nothing since all that means is Super Shenron would overpower Zeno's resistance. It will still not change the fact that Zeno resists literally every other Eternal Dragon's best powers.
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Magic Touch has never been shown to be resistible. Also, in DBH, Hearts' Godslayer form is said to be capable of killing Zeno if he can use that technique on him that he used to kill Zamasu.
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It sounds more like full immunity rather than resistance...
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Dude, "full immunity" is a NLF.Master Xar said:
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>Fun in games board when this should actually apply. But it won't be accepted so no point in trying.
Also, in regards to Super Shenron, in Xenoverse it was implied by Zamasu that not even Super Shenron would be able to kill Zen'o. While it is not canon to the actual series, there is no other form of evidence we have. So, in the absence of other evidence, I'd say Xenoverse is pretty viable
Also, in regards to Super Shenron, in Xenoverse it was implied by Zamasu that not even Super Shenron would be able to kill Zen'o. While it is not canon to the actual series, there is no other form of evidence we have. So, in the absence of other evidence, I'd say Xenoverse is pretty viable
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Also, shouldn't he have resistance to Molecular destruction or even Atomic destruction?
Due to how all energy attacks can destroy on such a level of powerful enough (SSJ2) and that the Genkidama wouldn't work on Zen'o too.
Most of all the Atomic resistance as Supreme Kai saw first hand how that works, and even then, Zen'o has survived erasing all reality which would include himself as he erased all of space leaving the void so he'd have to have resisted his own Erasure.
Due to how all energy attacks can destroy on such a level of powerful enough (SSJ2) and that the Genkidama wouldn't work on Zen'o too.
Most of all the Atomic resistance as Supreme Kai saw first hand how that works, and even then, Zen'o has survived erasing all reality which would include himself as he erased all of space leaving the void so he'd have to have resisted his own Erasure.
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Frieza has atomic level destruction statements from ages ago. So do some other characters I believe.
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List of ways to defeat Zeno:
- Monster Carrot's Magic Touch
- Buu's Chocolate Beam (possibly, though he could possibly fight as candy like Vegito; it's not clear if that was caused by his sheer power or an effect of the Potaras)
- The Commeson
- Evil Containment Wave
- Dabura's Stone Spit
- Frost's poison (the stunning type had the exact same effect on both Goku and the referee, proving that it works regardless of the target's power, as if power mattered, it would have either killed the referee or not had any effect on Goku)
- Ginyu's Body Change (assuming it can be pulled off before he erases)
- The Super Dragon Balls.
- Absorption (this would be extremely difficult to pull off)
Udlmaster
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Monster Carrot's touch has only worked on 10-B to 9-Bs, never has it worked on a Infinite 3-D being.
Buu's chocolate Beam can be negated, in the Manga it was blown away by the new Goat guy blowing.
Not sure what you mean here
Evil containment wave can be deflected, it's never shown to work on someone on Zen'ōs level
Frost's poison needs to enter it's opponent like any poison, which is impossible for anyone in DB
Ginyu's body change has never shown to work on someone as strong as Zenō and is implied to not work on Frieza.
The Super dragon Balls were made by a God and by extension so was Super Shenlong, so it would only have the max powers that guy could give which isn't shown to be on Zenō's level.
Absorption is no better than poison, you need to grapple your opponent, Zenō not only would not be able to be grappled by someone in DB but would also erase before it would even start.
Buu's chocolate Beam can be negated, in the Manga it was blown away by the new Goat guy blowing.
Not sure what you mean here
Evil containment wave can be deflected, it's never shown to work on someone on Zen'ōs level
Frost's poison needs to enter it's opponent like any poison, which is impossible for anyone in DB
Ginyu's body change has never shown to work on someone as strong as Zenō and is implied to not work on Frieza.
The Super dragon Balls were made by a God and by extension so was Super Shenlong, so it would only have the max powers that guy could give which isn't shown to be on Zenō's level.
Absorption is no better than poison, you need to grapple your opponent, Zenō not only would not be able to be grappled by someone in DB but would also erase before it would even start.
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The commeson is from those filler episodes. It touches the opponent, steals all their power, and creates a clone of them.
I know that the poison would normally be difficult to pull off, but if you were to use it while pretending to want to shake hands with him, it could possibly be done.
We have no reason to believe that the body change or magic touch wouldn't work. Ginyu didn't use it on Frieza out of loyalty. Even as a frog, he managed to use it on Tagoma when he was much stronger than pre training Frieza.
The SDBs were said to be capable of granting, and I quote "any wish with no limitations", and this was said by a guy who literally knew everything (Zuno). If they didn't work, I'd sue Zuno for falsified information.
I know that the poison would normally be difficult to pull off, but if you were to use it while pretending to want to shake hands with him, it could possibly be done.
We have no reason to believe that the body change or magic touch wouldn't work. Ginyu didn't use it on Frieza out of loyalty. Even as a frog, he managed to use it on Tagoma when he was much stronger than pre training Frieza.
The SDBs were said to be capable of granting, and I quote "any wish with no limitations", and this was said by a guy who literally knew everything (Zuno). If they didn't work, I'd sue Zuno for falsified information.
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Honestly I think this should get moved to content revisions because I legit believe this
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I also agree with this. He shouldn't resist purely AP based abilities like Light Manipulation and the like, though.
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Moved it to Content Revision for you guys since you kept asking for it.
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Hax is hax. Just because it was used on average humans back in BoS it doesn't mean bigger power resists that except for EE and Hit's Toki Tobashi.
I agree with these additions. Whis literally knows everything in his universe and Zuno's statement is less reliable since it's dubious he knows about Zen'o to begin with.
I agree with these additions. Whis literally knows everything in his universe and Zuno's statement is less reliable since it's dubious he knows about Zen'o to begin with.
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Tbf db characters do generally resist most hax in their own verse with sheer power. If supreme kai has stated this then i dont mind giving zeno these resistences especially since most are minor anyway.
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Doesn't Zeno have 4-D Void manipulation since he nuked a living timeline?
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I think it just qualifies as 2-C existence erasure.
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Why wouldn't Zuno know Zeno? He was said to know everything.
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So, wouldnt anybody who has tier 2 destroying feats have 4D void manip if nuking a timeline qualifies? I think zenos would just be 2-C erasure since its consistently portrayed as erasure and was done on that scale.
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