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Zeno erases the attack and the lego character along with it and it's over, game over.
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Kai (Ninjago) vs Zen'ō (Dragon Ball Super) [0-9-5] (GRACE ENDED)
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Yeah, textbook of stomp & mismatch
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no, Kai still had wincons so its not a stomp. why's it suddenly a stomp when a favored character loses?
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Because if the argument is that Zeno destroys Kai & his attacks, what can he even do?
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Why did it turn from Incon to "Kai can't do anything, Zeno is too fast" ?
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That reminds me of the Overlord vs DBH Goku thread where people wanted a match where Overlord getting passively one shotted by Aura was "not a stomp"
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This ain’t no stomp here sir
Need we remind you that HERE Kai got the “W” over Cat Blanc via his Wincon being able to be pulled off Faster that Cat Blanc’s?
So when the shoe is now on the other foot and Zeno can pull off his Wincon faster than Kai can, all of a sudden it’s now a stomp?
Fair is Fair Sir.
And Zeno doesn’t win via some Passive lol. What Zeno can do and how fast he can do it simply gives Zeno better versatility and field control over Kai’s arsenal.
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He can't tho. Your vote is based on the assumption Kai will start with Spinjitzu, but he can also shoot flames directly without charging up just like Zeno can with his EE, which is why I voted Incon. "Zeno just dodges" broskie has 0 combat skills
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Is not trought, is based on the fact that Zeno gonna erased him, and his flames before hitting him.
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That was based on the fact he needed less movements than Kai, which apparently doesn't seem to be the case
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That further proves its not a stomp but an incon btw
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My vote was based on both the fireball and spintjitzu arguments
Kai pointing / aiming in a direction and then shooting a fireball in any given position and then that fireball needing to travel over a distance no matter how great or small and Kai spinning his body into a tornado which doesn’t even guarantee speed blitz capability are both realistically slower than Zeno closing his hand and then being insta-erase in a speed equal match.
Kai has wincons and in a speed equal match he can activate them. The case here though is when it comes to Zeno 99/100 Kai will be negged before those Wincons can reach Zeno.
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That’s the point I stand on and that we all agree with
And to guy calling the match a stomp, a stomp would have been if Kai is erased passively so he has wincons but could never reach them.
Here though, Kai can activate his wincons. Where Kai falls short is that Zeno’s wincons can reach Kai first. That’s a fair win.
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If you want to remove it, remove it
This discussion really doesn’t matter, add this to profiles and we’ll talk in matchups removal threads
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Hm speaking of faster wincon, you should check out this Zeno MU https://vsbattles.com/threads/lady-bone-demon-vs-zeno-0-0-0.173028/
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I meant “propose removal in matchups removal thread and we’ll talk there”, not just remove it from profiles, mb
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To quote Lloyd’s reason before the FRA train started
“Notice how he needs to actually charge up a blast to do that? Kai could also make a long range blast while moving foward, and without the need to charge up as well, so I think he only wins due to that advantage”
So in the end it boiled down to Kai’s Wincon being faster to Reach than Cat Blanc’s. And don’t get me wrong I think and feel that’s a valid wincon. I’m not gonna say no to that.
My point is here, the same reason is more or less applied. Kai can activate his wincon but it’s not gonna reach before Zeno’s does first. And my Orange friend is calling it a stomp when for Kai it wasn’t.
I won’t contest the win being valid because I feel it’s a valid win. But for Orange Guy to now call this a stomp for more or less the same reasons seems based to me.
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Additional Info lol
Anyway Zeno fra
Anyway Zeno fra
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Not counting thatAdditional Info lol
Anyway Zeno fra
Match is already over
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It isNo it’s not
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Actually nvm, just reread stomp page, this matchup is valid
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ngl ya'll are desperate for a win against Zeno arent you. but when he starts winning, it's suddenly a stomp. ight lol
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I was so desperate that I thought they both kill each other and there wasn't gonna be any winner
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Just close this thread lol. Also yall should just go focus on another active Zeno VS thread https://vsbattles.com/threads/lady-bone-demon-vs-zeno-0-0-0.173028/
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didnt know
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