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Zeno Low 1-C?
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Excellence616
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It is pointless to look for results above 2-C about the db verse. almost everything was discussed. and why do you think destroying 18 universes should be low 1-C?
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The timelines created by time travel in DB are constructed from 4D objects, they should be low 1-C in size.
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Destroying 18 universes is 2-C, destroying a timeline containing 18 universes should be Low 1-C.
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Destroying a timeline with 18 infinite universes doesn't make you low 1-C. Infinity is gradual from 4D onwards.
Even if you destroy an infinite timeline containing 18 infinite universes, what you can become is only 2-A. And there are 7 timelines in verse DB.
in any case low 1-C is impossible
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size? You're not telling me it's 5d to destroy something made up of 4D objects, right?
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No, I’m saying a timeline in which the cross section is 4D objects instead of 3D will have low 1-C size as opposed to traditional low 2-C.
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That is not how it works, being a timeline containing multiple timelines alone does not make it tier 1 sized. It contains less than 1001 so it's simply 2-C.
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I don't even want to dream about this mess for DB, we almost didn't make the Universe 2-C, even if there are some chances for the verse to be low 1-C, I hope it has enough evidence, to never be downgraded, I just hate any kind of mess like that, thank God the verse doesn't work like that, but it's a dream I've yet to achieve, the complete DBS cosmology is 2-B, it's a good start...
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The timeline is past, present and future, which means it has copies of the 18 universes at each point in time, which are transfinite.
This is how we treat Low 2-C, transfinite copies of a 3-A structure.
How do temporal dimensions impact on tiering?
A: The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.This structure can then be generalized to any amounts of dimensions, and is also the reason destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). So, for example, a spacetime continuum comprising two temporal dimensions (Instead of just one) would have an additional time direction whose "snapshots" correspond to the whole of a 4-dimensional spacetime, and so on and so forth.
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If the structure itself contains 4D transfinite constructions, according to the wiki it is considered a 5D structure.
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As far as I can see, in that particular thread there has not been adequate discussion on the low 1-C due to the other topics and the derailment.
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So the DB has the possibility of being low 1-C, I didn't know about these things, I don't understand anything about Tier 1, I think that simple things make me much better on the ground.
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aren't you a connoisseur for tier 1 GoW ?
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Not for Norse GoW, no.
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the whole idea behind multiverses as a large timeline being low 1-C was rejected in general from what i recall, so you need a CRT to have that idea accepted before applying it to dragon ball
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It's possible? Like, how do you prove that the timeline is low 1-C? Is enough evidence needed?
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I assume you would need the standard multiverse within the timeline to be 5-D or 6-D.
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Jeez, this is impossible, I understand absolutely nothing about tier 1
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AFAIK you only need to prove there’s an overarching timeline (which DB has)
Some verses have a similar structure but no evidence that there’s another temporal dimension, DB explicitly has such a construct as far as I can tell.
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something to think about
there are 18 2-C universes that consist of several Low 2-C universes with a neutral space in between the 18 2-C universes and these universes can all be viewed from Zeno’s palace which is also a space outside the 18 universes and there’s the world of void that is separate from the 18.
so would we need to find out about the locations of Neutral Space, Zeno’s Palace and the World of Void for a low 1-C argument?
there are 18 2-C universes that consist of several Low 2-C universes with a neutral space in between the 18 2-C universes and these universes can all be viewed from Zeno’s palace which is also a space outside the 18 universes and there’s the world of void that is separate from the 18.
so would we need to find out about the locations of Neutral Space, Zeno’s Palace and the World of Void for a low 1-C argument?
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theres countless timelines btw
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You need to prove that the "time" of a timeline is encompassing structures low 2-C 3 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal which would make a low 1-C timeline with 3 spatial dimensions + 2 temporal dimensions (5D)
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low 1-c db 
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Hasty12345
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Time travel doesn’t create a new universe, it creates a whole new multiverse.
that’s a pretty huge indicator of a second temporal dimension, especially given each universe is a 2-C structure.
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Well, the fact that it is a timeline already tends to lead to this interpretation, and since each universe is already accepted as having its own space and time, and a timeline is spanning these universes it makes the existence of multiple temporal dimensions kind of blatant
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A lot in my head, I don't understand anything about level 1, but if I talk about level 2 then it's up to me, but anyway all Universes are separated by space-time and they are considered 2-C each, until it does It makes sense to be low 1-C the timeline with a small multiverse of 18 Universes.
If someone experienced tries this, I think it will go ahead, but only a few characters scale this, like Zen'ō and Super Shenron
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I agree, but I think zamasu could also scale to 2-A , as it was merging with parts of a timeline that would be an infinite and uncountable amount of 4D dimensions , it's the same logic we use to high 3-A for characters capable of destroying a time part of a low 2-C structure
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Technically yes.
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No? What?
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well thats what im getting from this thread, 2 temporal and 3 spatial
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Nope, you need to prove those temporal dimensions are qualitatively superior
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