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Zeno Low 1-C?

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Gasper said:
Yes you do. Just having more things isn't a higher tier.
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Read the tier system.

low 1-C is literally defined as 1 level of infinity above low 2-C.

an aleph 1 amount of 4D structures satisfies that definition.

no amount of “mUh qualitative superiority” changes the fact DB fits the definition for low 1-C and this qualifies.

there are more ways to get tier 1 than the ever changing goal post that is “qualitative superiority”
 
Hasty12345 said:
Read the tier system.

low 1-C is literally defined as 1 level of infinity above low 2-C.

an aleph 1 amount of 4D structures satisfies that definition.

no amount of “mUh qualitative superiority” changes the fact DB fits the definition for low 1-C and this qualifies.

there are more ways to get tier 1 than the ever changing goal post that is “qualitative superiority”
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No lol
Alephs are never mentioned in the verse nor does amount of universes mean it's uncountably infinite.
 
Gasper said:
You don't need alephs to reach any tier. You are the one who started talking about them.

I did.
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Sigh

Time is a continuum unless otherwise stated or shown. A continuum composed of universal sized 4D objects is low 1-C the same way a regular timeline is 4D.

DB has also explicitly shown to have overarching timelines that supersede the timelines of the universes so it satisfies that requirement as well.

the only way DB doesn’t have low 1-C would be due to another shifting of the goalposts and muddying the standards even more.
 
Hasty12345 said:
Sigh

Time is a continuum unless otherwise stated or shown. A continuum composed of universal sized 4D objects is low 1-C the same way a regular timeline is 4D.

DB has also explicitly shown to have overarching timelines that supersede the timelines of the universes so it satisfies that requirement as well.

the only way DB doesn’t have low 1-C would be due to another shifting of the goalposts and muddying the standards even more.
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I won't even respond to this utter nonsense.
4-D being Low 1-C, lmaoo
 
Hasty12345 said:
It’s ok to admit you don’t understand the argument/logic.

I can explain it to you in a different way if you need.

but calling something you don’t understand utter nonsense is just wilful ignorance.
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No, i understand the tiering system but your explanation dosen't make sense and isn't supported by anything.
 
Gasper said:
No, i understand the tiering system but your explanation dosen't make sense and isn't supported by anything.
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The timeline is past, present and future, which means it has copies of the 18 universes at each point in time, which are transfinite.

This is how we treat Low 2-C, transfinite copies of a 3-A structure.

How do temporal dimensions impact on tiering?​

A: The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.

This structure can then be generalized to any amounts of dimensions, and is also the reason destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). So, for example, a spacetime continuum comprising two temporal dimensions (Instead of just one) would have an additional time direction whose "snapshots" correspond to the whole of a 4-dimensional spacetime, and so on and so forth.
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Kulf_Boba said:
Zeno Sama destroyed the timeline, which contains a number of 18 universes and each is 2-C.

Therefore, the timeline contains instantaneous transfinites of Low 2-C structures.

Shouldn't it be Low 1-C then?
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From what you say, there is no indication of Gap Reality>Fiction, very strange.
 
Hasty12345 said:
Sigh

Time is a continuum unless otherwise stated or shown. A continuum composed of universal sized 4D objects is low 1-C the same way a regular timeline is 4D.

DB has also explicitly shown to have overarching timelines that supersede the timelines of the universes so it satisfies that requirement as well.

the only way DB doesn’t have low 1-C would be due to another shifting of the goalposts and muddying the standards even more.
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What do you think bro? The qualification to be Low 1-C is R^5 - R^6. And also there must be proof that Gap Reality>Fiction.
 
Hasty12345 said:
The second timeline is uncountably infinite 4D objects

That alone qualifies for tier 1, no qualitative superiority needed.
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This will only get 2-A with the scope of universe, 3-D space and 1-D temporal, Low 1-C already exists in a different dimension, that's 5-D.
 
WTF said:
The argument revolves around multiple time dimensions which here would qualify as 3 space dimensions+2 time dimensions, which is 5D
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Your "multiple time" is misinterpreting here, but rather a timeline that is in another dimension, but still in a 4-D structure.
 
WTF said:
R>F is irrelevant in the case of time dimensions
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Reality>Fiction here for the dimension may seem relevant, just an example. Character A is 2-D (Fiction), and there is Person B 3-D (Reality), so Character B is indeed A's axis coordinates as fiction.
 
Experiment12 said:
Your "multiple time" is misinterpreting here, but rather a timeline that is in another dimension, but still in a 4-D structure.
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The timeline is not in another dimension, it is just encompassing over 18 separate space-times each having its own time, which means that a timeline in dragon ball is a 3+2 D structure, and things like timeline changes are creating another parallel with a new multiverse
 
WTF said:
Here , it does not matter much since the feat is performed by a 3D character who can destroy the timeline
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Not agreeing, but the dimensionality of a character has no relevance to AP.
 
WTF said:
The timeline is not in another dimension, it is just encompassing over 18 separate space-times each having its own time, which means that a timeline in dragon ball is a 3+2 D structure, and things like timeline changes are creating another parallel with a new multiverse
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You are very misinterpreted here, it's just a parallel addition of the timeline axis, it doesn't change at all, it's just stuck 2-C there is no evidence at all for Low 1-C, where is Space 3-D + 2-D Temporal.
 
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