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Yu-Gi-Oh! General Discussion
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Nah, it has 0 reasons to be immeasurable.
At best it'd be something like an unconventional resistance to power null, modification, etc
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Completely fair, yeah.
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So, just a game mechanic
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The Toei anime series was pretty wacky, ngl. Some of Atem's Shadow Games even seemed to have outright Reality Warping in them (and he even beat up two professional bodyguards a la Yusei, lol).
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Anyway, I've always thought that the yu-gi-oh page has a lot of material that hasn't been added and completed (e.g. further research on YGO Anime or Manga or Card Game or Video Game，researching and adding zexal/arcv/vrains/sevens characters，adding Albaz-related pages, etc.), and that it does need a major overhaul.
*Of course it's a big project, it'll probably be a few years.
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Back when the movie came out, some tried to use it to upgrade the profiles. But they then went straight to argue tier 1 shit, which for a series that's not that popular on here, and which many still to this day misinterpret, all discussions ended stopping and so we never indexed the movie.
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Always thought it would be hard to properly scale the Albaz story, given how vague the feats are due to how the lore is given in a summary kind of way.
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Anime Yugi's Speed feat
*Yugi (Anime) was able to quickly uncuff pandora's foot just as the saw was about to cut it off.
Can this feat be calculated by anyone? I'm sorry I don't know anything about calculating feat, I can only provide some feat scenarios.
*Yugi (Anime) was able to quickly uncuff pandora's foot just as the saw was about to cut it off.
Can this feat be calculated by anyone? I'm sorry I don't know anything about calculating feat, I can only provide some feat scenarios.
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Asking here would be your best bet. I'd try to help, but I can't calc at all.
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Geez this thread is dead, I'll maybe work or Sevens/Go Rush profiles later this year/beginning of next year.
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That was kind of awesome, really. Aside being pretty funny (mostly due to Weevil's sheer level of cringe), the duel was legitimately exciting, like something you'd watch in the anime proper and a surprising heartfelt commentary on the nowadays game.
Maybe I'm also biased because I saw my boyo Joey perform my favorite summoning method, Synchro, in what felt a incredibly elaborate love letter to 5Ds, proper summoning sequence with the rings and particles, the summoning chant, the 5Ds ost, the camera cut of the summoner's face as they shout "Shinkuro Shokan!" and of course the whole thing being in Japanese for no reason.
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I remember in the official Yu-gi-oh! novel, Yami Yugi had destroyed the robot Kaiba's CPU electronic circuitry via mind crush.
I wonder if this can be added to the manga yugi page？
I wonder if this can be added to the manga yugi page？
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Yubel is so cool man
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I've compiled a list of some interesting Feats from Normal Monster's Card text, but I think some of them are still dodgy, just to see what people think.
AP/DURA:
Meteor Dragon
In the Japenese version, it's described as follows:
"宇宙の果てから地球におちてきた、流星のドラゴン."
(A meteoric dragon from the ends of the universe that crashed on Earth.)
The feat is rather dubious though, with no mention of how long it took to get from the ends of the universe to Earth. Even then it's rather dubious whether it can be incorporated into its combat speed, ditto for AP/Dura calculations.
Cosmo Queen
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
“宇宙に存在する、全ての星を統治しているという女王。”
（A queen who exists in the universe and rules over all the stars.）
Possesses an extremely high prestige of power, but of course this description is still rather vague, and it's not clear if her means of ruling over all the stars in the universe is through AP or an extremely high intelligence/overlordship.
Anotherverse Dragon
"This secretive dragon has conquered many dimensions, but can only be seen by the champion of time."
Anotherverse Gluttonia
"A massive, malevolent monstrosity, devourer of diverse dimensions, who molds multiple domains where only the mightiest dare dwell."
Garnecia Elefantis
"A monster so heavy that each step rocks the earth."
Creating earthquakes
Twin-Headed Fire Dragon
"Two dragons fused as one from the effects of the Big Bang."
Can survive the impact of the Big Bang.
Neo Aqua Madoor
"The true nature of this wizard, who rules all water. It defends itself with a vast, impenetrable wall of ice."
Extremely strong ice manipulation, creating a fairly strong wall of ice.
Phantom Gryphon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”山岳に隠れ棲む伝説のモンスター。その翼はひと羽ばたきで嵐を巻き起こすという。ハーピィとは仲が悪く、狩場を巡って争いが絶えないらしい。“
（A legendary monster that dwells secretly in the mountains. Its wings are said to cause storms that can blow people away. It has a bad relationship with the Harpies, as they seem to endlessly fight over hunting grounds.）
Able to create powerful storms, but it's not clear at what level.
Kabazauls
"A huge monster in the shape of a hippopotamus. The sneezing from his gigantic body is so fierce that people mistake it for a hurricane."
Powers and Abilities:
Rabidragon
In the Japenese version it is described as follows:
"雪原に生息するドラゴンの突然変異種。巨大な耳は数キロ離れた物音を聞き分け、驚異的な跳躍力と相俟って狙った獲物は逃さない。"
（A mutant species of dragon that inhabits the snowfields. Its huge ears can distinguish sounds from kilometres away, and combined with its incredible leaping ability, it cannot miss its prey.）
Super hearing and leaping ability
Suppression Collider
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"ネットワーク世界の巨悪と戦う熟練の闘士。その鉄鎚に圧縮されたデータは、誰にも復元できない。"
(This skilled warrior fights the great evils of the Network World. No one can restore any data compressed by their hammer.)
Data Manipulation
Mystery Shell Dragon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"別次元から突如として飛来した謎の生命体。高い攻撃力と奇襲能力を併せ持つ。その攻撃は対象物の神経を麻痺させ、強烈な幻覚症状を引き起こす。"
(A mysterious life form that suddenly came flying out of a different dimension. It possesses both high offensive and surprise attack capabilities. Its attack paralyzes the target's nerves, and causes intense hallucinations.)
Can paralyse and hallucinate enemies.
Speed:
Unknown Warrior of Fiend
"The speed of this warrior creates an intense vacuum that can slice through a monster's hide."
The attack is fast enough to create a strong vacuum.
Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts
"This monster moves so fast that it looks like an illusion to mortal eyes."
Gazelle is as fast as an illusion.
Sonic Duck
"A duck which can walk at a sonic speed. Sometimes, he cannot deal with his incredible pace and loses control."
Sky Scout
"With eyes like a hawk and a flying speed exceeding Mach 5, this monster is a master of the sky.
AP/DURA:
Meteor Dragon
In the Japenese version, it's described as follows:
"宇宙の果てから地球におちてきた、流星のドラゴン."
(A meteoric dragon from the ends of the universe that crashed on Earth.)
The feat is rather dubious though, with no mention of how long it took to get from the ends of the universe to Earth. Even then it's rather dubious whether it can be incorporated into its combat speed, ditto for AP/Dura calculations.
Cosmo Queen
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
“宇宙に存在する、全ての星を統治しているという女王。”
（A queen who exists in the universe and rules over all the stars.）
Possesses an extremely high prestige of power, but of course this description is still rather vague, and it's not clear if her means of ruling over all the stars in the universe is through AP or an extremely high intelligence/overlordship.
Anotherverse Dragon
"This secretive dragon has conquered many dimensions, but can only be seen by the champion of time."
Anotherverse Gluttonia
"A massive, malevolent monstrosity, devourer of diverse dimensions, who molds multiple domains where only the mightiest dare dwell."
Garnecia Elefantis
"A monster so heavy that each step rocks the earth."
Creating earthquakes
Twin-Headed Fire Dragon
"Two dragons fused as one from the effects of the Big Bang."
Can survive the impact of the Big Bang.
Neo Aqua Madoor
"The true nature of this wizard, who rules all water. It defends itself with a vast, impenetrable wall of ice."
Extremely strong ice manipulation, creating a fairly strong wall of ice.
Phantom Gryphon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”山岳に隠れ棲む伝説のモンスター。その翼はひと羽ばたきで嵐を巻き起こすという。ハーピィとは仲が悪く、狩場を巡って争いが絶えないらしい。“
（A legendary monster that dwells secretly in the mountains. Its wings are said to cause storms that can blow people away. It has a bad relationship with the Harpies, as they seem to endlessly fight over hunting grounds.）
Able to create powerful storms, but it's not clear at what level.
Kabazauls
"A huge monster in the shape of a hippopotamus. The sneezing from his gigantic body is so fierce that people mistake it for a hurricane."
Powers and Abilities:
Rabidragon
In the Japenese version it is described as follows:
"雪原に生息するドラゴンの突然変異種。巨大な耳は数キロ離れた物音を聞き分け、驚異的な跳躍力と相俟って狙った獲物は逃さない。"
（A mutant species of dragon that inhabits the snowfields. Its huge ears can distinguish sounds from kilometres away, and combined with its incredible leaping ability, it cannot miss its prey.）
Super hearing and leaping ability
Suppression Collider
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"ネットワーク世界の巨悪と戦う熟練の闘士。その鉄鎚に圧縮されたデータは、誰にも復元できない。"
(This skilled warrior fights the great evils of the Network World. No one can restore any data compressed by their hammer.)
Data Manipulation
Mystery Shell Dragon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"別次元から突如として飛来した謎の生命体。高い攻撃力と奇襲能力を併せ持つ。その攻撃は対象物の神経を麻痺させ、強烈な幻覚症状を引き起こす。"
(A mysterious life form that suddenly came flying out of a different dimension. It possesses both high offensive and surprise attack capabilities. Its attack paralyzes the target's nerves, and causes intense hallucinations.)
Can paralyse and hallucinate enemies.
Speed:
Unknown Warrior of Fiend
"The speed of this warrior creates an intense vacuum that can slice through a monster's hide."
The attack is fast enough to create a strong vacuum.
Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts
"This monster moves so fast that it looks like an illusion to mortal eyes."
Gazelle is as fast as an illusion.
Sonic Duck
"A duck which can walk at a sonic speed. Sometimes, he cannot deal with his incredible pace and loses control."
Sky Scout
"With eyes like a hawk and a flying speed exceeding Mach 5, this monster is a master of the sky.
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Some of those have potential to affect anime &/or TCG scaling.
As some may have noticed, Yugioh cards have text! This includes in the anime; It isn't visible in dubs like the English ones, due to merchandise advertisement rules.
Thus, in the original Japanese anime (Which, for some series, the anime is the original canon, as the Manga is either a separate continuity made after, or does not exist for that series.), those Normal Monsters should have the same card text as their IRL counterparts.
Thus, if we assume the anime card lore is the same as IRL (Although, in cases where the card originated in the anime, we MAY need to verify it's the same.) & the lore on the physical cards is relevant to their versions in the anime, it could affect scaling.
(Although, why Industrial Illusions or whoever's making the cards in the anime would have factual information about monsters often not even known/thought to exist, IDK.)
Even without it, it could affect the card game scaling.
So, let's go over which of those could affect scaling chains, off the top of my head:
Appeared in Toei's Yugioh movie, where... I'll let the Wiki speak for me:
Anyway, Toei Yugioh is kind of a mess we currently don't cover, so I guess let's put that aside.
In Yugioh GX, Trueman summons it by using Meteor Dragon & King of the Swamp as a Fusion Material substitute for Red Eyes (Presumably because REBD was Atticus's signature card or something.), & destroys Elemental HERO Mudballman with it. It attacks again on Trueman's next turn. Jaden uses A Hero Emerges to summon Elemental HERO Neos. Given the replay, Trueman has MBD attack again, against the newly present Neos, & Jaden uses Soul Union to add Mudballman's ATK to Neos's, & Neo destroys MBD.
So, unless we call it game mechanics, MBD is superior to Neos, but inferior to Neos + Mudballman under a Soul Union? IDK, LOL.
Capsule Monsters Scaling (IIRC, this is a separate continuity from the Manga & NAS because the Capsule Monsters Anime was a 4Kids commission thing.): Base Meteor Dragon is 1 of the "Fiendish Five", which Yugi Muto & his friends had to defeat during the final trial. It later combined with "Luster Dragon #2", "Aqua Dragon" (Technically a sea serpent, lol.) , "Tyrant Dragon" & "Serpent Night Dragon" to form "Five-Headed Dragon".
During the dueling at Yuma's school in ep 1 of ZEXAL, Meteor Dragon can be seen.
Anyway, presumably Meteor Black Dragon should be superior to its Fusion Materials.
Also, this exists: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Meteor_Dragon_Red-Eyes_Impact
A counterpart or a retrain or something? But the Wiki claims it's art depicts it as if it's undergoing atmospheric impact.
In Yugioh GX 97, Doctor Collector summoned it, & it attacked The D's Enigma the Creator. The D activated Negate Attack, & later summoned Destiny Hero - Plasma, which Cosmo Queen gets attacked to. Magician's Valkyria's effects, & Nightmare Wheel are negated by The D's face up D - Force, & Destiny Hero - Plasma attacks Ebon Magician Curran & wins the duel.
The Wiki says about Cosmo Queen for, about ARC-V: In episode 126, this card appears in Leo Akaba's explanation of how Solid Vision technology was developed alongside the Duel Monsters card game.
IDK the details of what, if anything it did in ARC-V.
Mind, name-scaling isn't useful, & we don't know what feats Ganesha has in YGO.
Infamous for a scene in the anime:
In episode 16, this card is shown in a flashback Seto Kaiba has when he explains to Yugi Muto what happened at the Intercontinental Tournament in New York City. Bandit Keith was shown using this card during his Duel against Maximillion Pegasus who later swapped places with a boy named Sam. Keith summoned this card in Attack Position, but his opponent Normal Summons "Flying Elephant", which decreases Keith's Life Points to 0. How it happened is unknown because "Flying Elephant" was 550 points weaker than this card, but in the manga it is explained that "Flying Elephant" is able to counter the seismic attack of "Garnecia Elefantis" (this is not a real rule).
Notably, Flying Elephant is an effect monster IRL, but just a Normal Monster in the anime. The YGO Wiki lists its card lore (From the Japanese anime) as:
"As it floats in the sky, it is unaffected by ground-based attacks."
Not much else for it.
This monster was seen in Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters. It was destroyed by La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp.
This was one of the monsters in The Supreme King's army.
If at all relevant, it has a Lightray counterpart: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Lightray_Madoor
The Wiki mentions for Aqua Madoor that: It appeared in Yu-Gi-Oh! GX as a Duel Monsters Spirit.
But it doesn't say when or what it did, if anything.
Aqua Madoor is depicted in https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Magical_Stream
Notably, Magical Stream's art seems to depict a calculable feat, with some pixel scaling necessary?
Given Neo Aqua Madoor seems to a retrain of it, & its text even implies NAM is the "true nature" of AM, NAM should be superior to AM. (Not to mention ice is denser than water, lol.)
The Wiki claims:
This monster appeared as a Duel Spirit in the anime more than ten years before it was made into a card, in Yu-Gi-Oh! - Episode 147.
Also, it seems to be made in reference to
"Gryphon's Feather Duster" is named for this monster.
It also seems to appear in the artwork of https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Gryphon_Wing
Since Gryphon Wing negates Harpie's Feather Duster & then applies the same effect to your opponent as what HFD, there's at least 2 possibilities for what it does:
A. Power Nullifies or otherwise stops the whirlwind or such that HFD creates. (IIRC, it often does Wind Manipulation in the anime.) This would suggest it is equal.
B. Overpowers HFD & turns it on the opponent, which is probably more since it's changing the course of a windstorm. Probably hard to calc, though.
Either way, it's also unclear if the Gryphon Wing feat is done with 1 or 2 wings.
However, its AoE appears small. It could just be the perspective/scale of the art, though?
That would mean going into 2 scaling chains, 1 of which is potentially quite larger, just to find feats to use for Anime-TCG/OCG cross-scaling to MAYBE say Rabidragon is comparable to, which I do not feel up to AtM.
Also, Fusions should be superior to their Fusion Materials, presumably, so this may be something for Chimera.
Even with just card game scaling alone, Gazelle has tons of stuff, nevermind with the anime/manga.
It also has a retrain, though the connection feels a little superficial: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Gazelle_the_King_of_Mythical_Claws
So yeah, that was a lot. Or at least it feels like it.
If anyone wants to tackle digging up the scaling for Master of Oz, Behemoth, King of All Animals &/or Gazelle, the King of Mythical Beasts, that might be useful.
Hopefully this was helpful &/or interesting.
As some may have noticed, Yugioh cards have text! This includes in the anime; It isn't visible in dubs like the English ones, due to merchandise advertisement rules.
Thus, in the original Japanese anime (Which, for some series, the anime is the original canon, as the Manga is either a separate continuity made after, or does not exist for that series.), those Normal Monsters should have the same card text as their IRL counterparts.
Thus, if we assume the anime card lore is the same as IRL (Although, in cases where the card originated in the anime, we MAY need to verify it's the same.) & the lore on the physical cards is relevant to their versions in the anime, it could affect scaling.
(Although, why Industrial Illusions or whoever's making the cards in the anime would have factual information about monsters often not even known/thought to exist, IDK.)
Even without it, it could affect the card game scaling.
So, let's go over which of those could affect scaling chains, off the top of my head:
Fusion Material for Meteor Black Dragon.
Appeared in Toei's Yugioh movie, where... I'll let the Wiki speak for me:
- During his Duel against Seto Kaiba, Yugi Muto summons this card by using "Polymerization" to fuse "Meteor Dragon" with Shougo Aoyama's "Red-Eyes Black Dragon". This monster destroyed Seto's "Blue-Eyes White Dragon's 3-Body Connection" and won Yugi the Duel.
Anyway, Toei Yugioh is kind of a mess we currently don't cover, so I guess let's put that aside.
In Yugioh GX, Trueman summons it by using Meteor Dragon & King of the Swamp as a Fusion Material substitute for Red Eyes (Presumably because REBD was Atticus's signature card or something.), & destroys Elemental HERO Mudballman with it. It attacks again on Trueman's next turn. Jaden uses A Hero Emerges to summon Elemental HERO Neos. Given the replay, Trueman has MBD attack again, against the newly present Neos, & Jaden uses Soul Union to add Mudballman's ATK to Neos's, & Neo destroys MBD.
So, unless we call it game mechanics, MBD is superior to Neos, but inferior to Neos + Mudballman under a Soul Union? IDK, LOL.
Capsule Monsters Scaling (IIRC, this is a separate continuity from the Manga & NAS because the Capsule Monsters Anime was a 4Kids commission thing.): Base Meteor Dragon is 1 of the "Fiendish Five", which Yugi Muto & his friends had to defeat during the final trial. It later combined with "Luster Dragon #2", "Aqua Dragon" (Technically a sea serpent, lol.) , "Tyrant Dragon" & "Serpent Night Dragon" to form "Five-Headed Dragon".
During the dueling at Yuma's school in ep 1 of ZEXAL, Meteor Dragon can be seen.
Anyway, presumably Meteor Black Dragon should be superior to its Fusion Materials.
Also, this exists: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Meteor_Dragon_Red-Eyes_Impact
A counterpart or a retrain or something? But the Wiki claims it's art depicts it as if it's undergoing atmospheric impact.
Summoned via Gozaburo using Chess Pieces & then destroyed Curse of Dragon in the Virtual World Arc, episode 120. Defeated by a combo of Joey's Rocket Warrior & Yugi's Dark Magician.
In Yugioh GX 97, Doctor Collector summoned it, & it attacked The D's Enigma the Creator. The D activated Negate Attack, & later summoned Destiny Hero - Plasma, which Cosmo Queen gets attacked to. Magician's Valkyria's effects, & Nightmare Wheel are negated by The D's face up D - Force, & Destiny Hero - Plasma attacks Ebon Magician Curran & wins the duel.
The Wiki says about Cosmo Queen for, about ARC-V: In episode 126, this card appears in Leo Akaba's explanation of how Solid Vision technology was developed alongside the Duel Monsters card game.
IDK the details of what, if anything it did in ARC-V.
Wiki says: This card's name is derived from Ganesha, the name of a Hindu god who has an elephant head.
Mind, name-scaling isn't useful, & we don't know what feats Ganesha has in YGO.
Infamous for a scene in the anime:
In episode 16, this card is shown in a flashback Seto Kaiba has when he explains to Yugi Muto what happened at the Intercontinental Tournament in New York City. Bandit Keith was shown using this card during his Duel against Maximillion Pegasus who later swapped places with a boy named Sam. Keith summoned this card in Attack Position, but his opponent Normal Summons "Flying Elephant", which decreases Keith's Life Points to 0. How it happened is unknown because "Flying Elephant" was 550 points weaker than this card, but in the manga it is explained that "Flying Elephant" is able to counter the seismic attack of "Garnecia Elefantis" (this is not a real rule).
- This rule and some of the other rules used in the Duelist Kingdom arc are based off elemental relationships; specifically, WIND beats EARTH, in this case due to the aforementioned ability to counter this card's seismic attack.
- This card's instant win effect is likely in reference to how it was used to defeat Bandit Keith.
- In the manga and original Japanese dub of the anime, it dodges the effect of "Fissure", which is referenced in this card's protection from destruction effects.
Notably, Flying Elephant is an effect monster IRL, but just a Normal Monster in the anime. The YGO Wiki lists its card lore (From the Japanese anime) as:
"As it floats in the sky, it is unaffected by ground-based attacks."
In episode 61, this card appears in a Battle City Duel, while Téa Gardner and Solomon Muto were looking for Yugi Muto.
Not much else for it.
YGO Wiki says for appearances:
This monster was seen in Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters. It was destroyed by La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp.
This was one of the monsters in The Supreme King's army.
If at all relevant, it has a Lightray counterpart: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Lightray_Madoor
The Wiki mentions for Aqua Madoor that: It appeared in Yu-Gi-Oh! GX as a Duel Monsters Spirit.
But it doesn't say when or what it did, if anything.
Aqua Madoor is depicted in https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Magical_Stream
Notably, Magical Stream's art seems to depict a calculable feat, with some pixel scaling necessary?
Given Neo Aqua Madoor seems to a retrain of it, & its text even implies NAM is the "true nature" of AM, NAM should be superior to AM. (Not to mention ice is denser than water, lol.)
Scaling to Harpies is interesting!
The Wiki claims:
This monster appeared as a Duel Spirit in the anime more than ten years before it was made into a card, in Yu-Gi-Oh! - Episode 147.
Also, it seems to be made in reference to
"Gryphon's Feather Duster" is named for this monster.
It also seems to appear in the artwork of https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Gryphon_Wing
Since Gryphon Wing negates Harpie's Feather Duster & then applies the same effect to your opponent as what HFD, there's at least 2 possibilities for what it does:
A. Power Nullifies or otherwise stops the whirlwind or such that HFD creates. (IIRC, it often does Wind Manipulation in the anime.) This would suggest it is equal.
B. Overpowers HFD & turns it on the opponent, which is probably more since it's changing the course of a windstorm. Probably hard to calc, though.
Either way, it's also unclear if the Gryphon Wing feat is done with 1 or 2 wings.
Appearances in the artwork of: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Lost_World
However, its AoE appears small. It could just be the perspective/scale of the art, though?
Rabidragon has an anime appearance:
- In episode 53, Count Crazy Fang uses this card during the Duel Coaster Battle Royal. Vetrix uses an unknown effect to destroy this card, Lord Percius's "Master of Oz" and Pepe Perez's "Behemoth the King of All Animals" and deplete all of Vetrix's opponents' Life Points, eliminating all three.
That would mean going into 2 scaling chains, 1 of which is potentially quite larger, just to find feats to use for Anime-TCG/OCG cross-scaling to MAYBE say Rabidragon is comparable to, which I do not feel up to AtM.
Couldn't find anything. Fitting, lol.
The Wiki says, among other things for it:
- This card may be based on the Glaucus atlanticus, commonly known as the "blue dragon."
- This card being a Wyrm-Type may be a reference to this nickname.
- This card's flavor text notes its ability to deliver paralyzing stings, which may be a reference to the venomous nematocysts the Glaucus atlanticus uses to sting its victims.
The feat itself is good, although I'm sad to say that I couldn't find anything connected to UWoF.
Kind of vague. Could be equated to being a blur by speed, or maybe afterimages via speed? Faster than sight?
Also, Fusions should be superior to their Fusion Materials, presumably, so this may be something for Chimera.
Even with just card game scaling alone, Gazelle has tons of stuff, nevermind with the anime/manga.
It also has a retrain, though the connection feels a little superficial: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Gazelle_the_King_of_Mythical_Claws
Used like Chocobo-like mounts in the anime:
- In episode 135, Jaden and his friends ride on Sonic Duck Duel Monsters Spirits to get to a fortress in the fourth dimension. Only Jaden arrives at their destination; the others are thrown off and surrounded by the Dark World Army.
If being a duelist counts for anything in scaling....
- This card's Duel Monster Spirit appears as a character which duels Jaden Yuki in episode 132.
Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL
- In episode 1, this card can briefly be seen in the montage of Duels shown at the Duel Square in Yuma Tsukumo's school.
Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V
- In episode 1, this card appears in The Sledgehammer's Leo Institute of Dueling advertisement.
So yeah, that was a lot. Or at least it feels like it.
If anyone wants to tackle digging up the scaling for Master of Oz, Behemoth, King of All Animals &/or Gazelle, the King of Mythical Beasts, that might be useful.
Hopefully this was helpful &/or interesting.
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Continuing to summarise Normal Monster's feat, The monsters listed below have laser attack stunts. But whether their lasers are light-speed or not I don't know.
Meotoko
"Dis big ol' guy wit' a big ol' eye shoots a nasty ray beam right atcha!"
Prisman
"This crystalline monster focuses light to create a lethal laser."
Megirus Light
"The fatal beams from the eyes of this monster result in grim destruction."
Blue-Eyed Silver Zombie
"The beams from the eyes of this creature are said to turn enemies into zombies."
Ray & Temperature
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"仲の良い北風と太陽。かまいたちと熱光線で攻撃。"
(The North Wind and the Sun, who have a good relationship. They attack with the whirlwind and heat rays.)
Dark Shade
"A crystal monster that unleashes a brilliant light to blind enemies."
Neck Hunter
"A fiend that wields a mean sickle and fires devastating beams from its eyes."
Next up is Normal Monster's speed feat addition
Metalfoes Silverd
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"白銀の亜光速ジェットを操る美しき狙撃手。常識を超えたスピードで疾走る彼女を捉える事は不可能に近く、光の速さで繰り出される一撃から逃れる術は無い。"
(A beautiful sniper who manipulates a silvery white sub-lightspeed jet. It is nearly impossible to catch her as she sprints at speeds beyond the norm, and there is no way to escape a blow delivered at the speed of light.)
Cyber Falcon
A jet-powered hawk that travels at the speed of sound.
Alligator's Sword
ey, dis mighty lissard man can swing his sword so fast, dat it's more dan da speed a sound!
By the way, I've always wondered why the Intelligence intro on the Anime Yugi/kaiba page references DSOD, and as I recall, isn't DSOD the Manga timeline?
Meotoko
"Dis big ol' guy wit' a big ol' eye shoots a nasty ray beam right atcha!"
Prisman
"This crystalline monster focuses light to create a lethal laser."
Megirus Light
"The fatal beams from the eyes of this monster result in grim destruction."
Blue-Eyed Silver Zombie
"The beams from the eyes of this creature are said to turn enemies into zombies."
Ray & Temperature
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"仲の良い北風と太陽。かまいたちと熱光線で攻撃。"
(The North Wind and the Sun, who have a good relationship. They attack with the whirlwind and heat rays.)
Dark Shade
"A crystal monster that unleashes a brilliant light to blind enemies."
Neck Hunter
"A fiend that wields a mean sickle and fires devastating beams from its eyes."
Next up is Normal Monster's speed feat addition
Metalfoes Silverd
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"白銀の亜光速ジェットを操る美しき狙撃手。常識を超えたスピードで疾走る彼女を捉える事は不可能に近く、光の速さで繰り出される一撃から逃れる術は無い。"
(A beautiful sniper who manipulates a silvery white sub-lightspeed jet. It is nearly impossible to catch her as she sprints at speeds beyond the norm, and there is no way to escape a blow delivered at the speed of light.)
Cyber Falcon
A jet-powered hawk that travels at the speed of sound.
Alligator's Sword
ey, dis mighty lissard man can swing his sword so fast, dat it's more dan da speed a sound!
By the way, I've always wondered why the Intelligence intro on the Anime Yugi/kaiba page references DSOD, and as I recall, isn't DSOD the Manga timeline?
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Note that some video game titles (Cross Duel, Duel Monsters) add Normal Monsters Card Text to Non-Effect Fusion Monster and Effect Monster.I'll give you a few examples：
Meteor Black Dragon
In the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh! The Sacred Cards (Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 7: The Duelcity Legend in Japan), it has the following card text:
「赤黒く燃える隕石の体はまわりのものを蒸発させてしまう」
(The reddish-black burning meteorite body vaporizes everything around it.)
It vaporizes things around it, and it's unclear if that comes from its special ability or if its temperature is so high that it vaporizes objects around it.
Karate Man
In the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction（Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 8: Reshef of Destruction in Japan）, it has the following card text:
「鋼鉄の拳を持ち、瓦を一万枚も割ることができるぞ！」
（A lean and buff karate master with fists of steel. He has the power to shatter 10,000 roof tiles.）
It is unclear whether he breaks 10,000 tiles in one breath or never rests until he breaks 10,000 tiles. Either way it's still pretty impressive.
Sonic Bird
In the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction（Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 8: Reshef of Destruction in Japan）, it has the following card text:
「音よりも速いスピードで空を飛ぶ超音速モンスターだ」
（A goggled bird monster with jet units slung over its back.It is a supersonic monster that travels faster than sound.）
Another beyond the speed of sound feat.....
Meteor Black Dragon
In the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh! The Sacred Cards (Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 7: The Duelcity Legend in Japan), it has the following card text:
「赤黒く燃える隕石の体はまわりのものを蒸発させてしまう」
(The reddish-black burning meteorite body vaporizes everything around it.)
It vaporizes things around it, and it's unclear if that comes from its special ability or if its temperature is so high that it vaporizes objects around it.
Karate Man
In the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction（Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 8: Reshef of Destruction in Japan）, it has the following card text:
「鋼鉄の拳を持ち、瓦を一万枚も割ることができるぞ！」
（A lean and buff karate master with fists of steel. He has the power to shatter 10,000 roof tiles.）
It is unclear whether he breaks 10,000 tiles in one breath or never rests until he breaks 10,000 tiles. Either way it's still pretty impressive.
Sonic Bird
In the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction（Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 8: Reshef of Destruction in Japan）, it has the following card text:
「音よりも速いスピードで空を飛ぶ超音速モンスターだ」
（A goggled bird monster with jet units slung over its back.It is a supersonic monster that travels faster than sound.）
Another beyond the speed of sound feat.....
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Continuing to summarise Normal Monster's feat, this time mainly listing special abilities.
Petrify the enemy
Rock Ogre Grotto #2
"A golem formed by boulders, this monster turns its enemies to stone and crushes them to dust."
The Snake Hair
"A monster with a head of poison snakes. One look from this monster can turn an opponent to stone."
Absorbing/seeing the soul
Dokuroizo the Grim Reaper
“A messenger of doom that steals a soul with a single blow.”
Solitude
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"下半身がシカで、魂を吸うという大カマを持った獣戦士。"
(A beast warrior with the lower body of a deer and a big kama that sucks souls.)
That Which Feeds on Life
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"あらゆる生き物の魂を喰い、己のエネルギーとする悪魔。"
(A demon that feeds on the souls of all living creatures and uses them as its own energy.)
Put the enemy in fear
Mandragon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
“悲哀に満ちたドラゴンの魂を宿したマンドリン。呪いの音色を奏で、聞いたものは恐怖のあまり自我を失ってしまうという。“
（A mandolin carrying the soul of sorrow-filled dragon. It's said that those who hear its cursed music lose themselves in terror.）
Magical Ghost
"This creature casts a spell of terror and confusion just before attacking its enemies."
(Put the enemy in confusion and fear.)
Protected by Holy forces or Ability to use Holy Attacks
Seiyaryu
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”聖なる炎で悪しき者を焼きはらう、神聖な力を持つドラゴン。“
（A dragon with holy powers that burns away the evil ones with sacred flames.）
Gyakutenno Megami
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”聖なる力で弱き者を守り、逆転の力を与える女神。“
（This goddess uses her sacred power to protect the weak and provide power for a comeback.）
Rogue Doll
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”聖なる力を操る人形。闇での攻撃は強力だ。“
（A doll that controls holy power. It is particularly powerful when attacking in the dark.）
Mystical Elf
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"かよわいエルフだが、聖なる力で身を守りとても守備が高い。"
(She is a delicate elf, but she protects herself with holy power and has very high defense.)
Mystical Capture Chain
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"聖なる力で、動きを封じることができると言われている鎖。"
(A chain that is said to have holy power and is able to prevent movement.)
Lucky Trinket
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"ひょろひょろとしているが、聖なる力に守られている。"
(Although frail, it is protected by a holy power.)
Others
Koumori Dragon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”凶悪なドラゴン。邪悪な炎をはき、心を邪悪にする。“
（A vicious dragon. Spits out evil flames to make people evil.）
And in the English version. It is described as follows:
”A vicious, fire-breathing dragon whose wicked flame corrupts the souls of its victims.“
Subtle differences, though what remains the same is that it can turn opponents into evil beings
Summoned Skull
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”闇の力を使い、人の心を惑わすデーモン。悪魔族ではかなり強力な力を誇る。“
（A Daemon who bewilders the hearts of humans using dark powers. It boasts considerable force in the Demon Race.）
Confuse the enemy
Thousand-Eyes Idol
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”人の心を操る邪神。千の邪眼は、人の負の心を見透かし増大させる。“
（An evil god who manipulates people's minds. A thousand evil eyes see through people's negative minds and increase them.）
And in the English version. It is described as follows:
”A wicked entity that controls the hearts of men, its thousand eyes are able to see and expand the negative influences in an individual's soul.“
Subtle differences，In short it can control the enemy's mind and also see the negative aspects of the enemy's mind and amplify them
Spirit of the Mountain
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”手にする笛の音を聞いた者は、カが抜けてしまうと言われている。“
（It is said that those who hear its flute will lose their strength.）
AP:
Kojikocy
”A man-hunter with powerful arms that can crush boulders.“
It can break rocks with a single blow.
Molten Behemoth
”A giant born from magma, it attacks with a magma punch.“
The point, however, is that in the official Japanese guide to 《Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelists of the Roses》 (sorry I don't have a picture of it, just a transcript from a Japanese folk Wiki), the guide gives it the following description:
「火山の精。地脈を自在に操り、地震や局地的な火山噴火を起こすことで恐れられている。」
（The spirit of the volcano. It can manipulate the earth's veins with ease, triggering earthquakes and localised eruptions, which are very scary）
Impressive Feat
Petrify the enemy
Rock Ogre Grotto #2
"A golem formed by boulders, this monster turns its enemies to stone and crushes them to dust."
The Snake Hair
"A monster with a head of poison snakes. One look from this monster can turn an opponent to stone."
Absorbing/seeing the soul
Dokuroizo the Grim Reaper
“A messenger of doom that steals a soul with a single blow.”
Solitude
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"下半身がシカで、魂を吸うという大カマを持った獣戦士。"
(A beast warrior with the lower body of a deer and a big kama that sucks souls.)
That Which Feeds on Life
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"あらゆる生き物の魂を喰い、己のエネルギーとする悪魔。"
(A demon that feeds on the souls of all living creatures and uses them as its own energy.)
Put the enemy in fear
Mandragon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
“悲哀に満ちたドラゴンの魂を宿したマンドリン。呪いの音色を奏で、聞いたものは恐怖のあまり自我を失ってしまうという。“
（A mandolin carrying the soul of sorrow-filled dragon. It's said that those who hear its cursed music lose themselves in terror.）
Magical Ghost
"This creature casts a spell of terror and confusion just before attacking its enemies."
(Put the enemy in confusion and fear.)
Protected by Holy forces or Ability to use Holy Attacks
Seiyaryu
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”聖なる炎で悪しき者を焼きはらう、神聖な力を持つドラゴン。“
（A dragon with holy powers that burns away the evil ones with sacred flames.）
Gyakutenno Megami
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”聖なる力で弱き者を守り、逆転の力を与える女神。“
（This goddess uses her sacred power to protect the weak and provide power for a comeback.）
Rogue Doll
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”聖なる力を操る人形。闇での攻撃は強力だ。“
（A doll that controls holy power. It is particularly powerful when attacking in the dark.）
Mystical Elf
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"かよわいエルフだが、聖なる力で身を守りとても守備が高い。"
(She is a delicate elf, but she protects herself with holy power and has very high defense.)
Mystical Capture Chain
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"聖なる力で、動きを封じることができると言われている鎖。"
(A chain that is said to have holy power and is able to prevent movement.)
Lucky Trinket
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
"ひょろひょろとしているが、聖なる力に守られている。"
(Although frail, it is protected by a holy power.)
Others
Koumori Dragon
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”凶悪なドラゴン。邪悪な炎をはき、心を邪悪にする。“
（A vicious dragon. Spits out evil flames to make people evil.）
And in the English version. It is described as follows:
”A vicious, fire-breathing dragon whose wicked flame corrupts the souls of its victims.“
Subtle differences, though what remains the same is that it can turn opponents into evil beings
Summoned Skull
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”闇の力を使い、人の心を惑わすデーモン。悪魔族ではかなり強力な力を誇る。“
（A Daemon who bewilders the hearts of humans using dark powers. It boasts considerable force in the Demon Race.）
Confuse the enemy
Thousand-Eyes Idol
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”人の心を操る邪神。千の邪眼は、人の負の心を見透かし増大させる。“
（An evil god who manipulates people's minds. A thousand evil eyes see through people's negative minds and increase them.）
And in the English version. It is described as follows:
”A wicked entity that controls the hearts of men, its thousand eyes are able to see and expand the negative influences in an individual's soul.“
Subtle differences，In short it can control the enemy's mind and also see the negative aspects of the enemy's mind and amplify them
Spirit of the Mountain
In the Japenese version, it is described as follows:
”手にする笛の音を聞いた者は、カが抜けてしまうと言われている。“
（It is said that those who hear its flute will lose their strength.）
AP:
Kojikocy
”A man-hunter with powerful arms that can crush boulders.“
It can break rocks with a single blow.
Molten Behemoth
”A giant born from magma, it attacks with a magma punch.“
The point, however, is that in the official Japanese guide to 《Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelists of the Roses》 (sorry I don't have a picture of it, just a transcript from a Japanese folk Wiki), the guide gives it the following description:
「火山の精。地脈を自在に操り、地震や局地的な火山噴火を起こすことで恐れられている。」
（The spirit of the volcano. It can manipulate the earth's veins with ease, triggering earthquakes and localised eruptions, which are very scary）
Impressive Feat
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Should I remove these parts of the profiles if nobody can say why they are on those pages?
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Anyone here interested in playing Master Duel?
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Has anyone done any research on Duel links? The plot of Duel links is quite interesting. (Like explaining why there are only 4 Blue-Eyes White Dragon Cards, Paradox's dialogue with Zane, kaiba, joey, Pegasus, etc.)
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I played it years ago, but didn't pay much mind to the lore. What's the scoop?
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Solomon meets Pegasus, who explains to him why only four ‘Blue eyes’ cards were made.
Paradox(Anime timelines) meets Pegasus(manga timelines)
I guess in the future we can wait for Duel links cosmology to come out?
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i checked the raws and it seems that the plot of duel links is basically
duel links gathers info from other multiverses and reconstructs the duel links worlds(vrains world, arc-v world etc) based off that
dead characters get revived from information either from their world or from the memory the characters have of them in duel links
duel links gathers info from other multiverses and reconstructs the duel links worlds(vrains world, arc-v world etc) based off that
dead characters get revived from information either from their world or from the memory the characters have of them in duel links
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Man, basically all but the first series are anime first.
Yet is Duel Links still not doing Anime-Only Duel Monsters Duelists like Dartz, Rebecca, Arthur, Ziegfried, Vivian, etc.?
THE BIG FIVE!
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Zencha9
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knowing duel links they're prob saving it for later anime stuff does get referenced like the BBT event was pretty much jaden and yusei being "paradox again?" and yugi and atem being like "who are you people"
huh didnt notice that but yeah DSOD is manga stuff
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FWIW, that was a movie thing, I fear they may have only done it because was a movie. I doubt they'll give such care to anime-only arc characters.
