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Low 1-A lol.dimension is an element of universe which can easily make yogiri 1A
It can be either 2 set of dimension or retcon.
1 Set.
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Low 1-A lol.dimension is an element of universe which can easily make yogiri 1A
It can be either 2 set of dimension or retcon.
It's HRE who is low 1A.Low 1-A lol.
WHat is HRE? Holy Roman Empire?It's HRE who is low 1A.
heavenly record eaterWHat is HRE? Holy Roman Empire?
Those are just 1-B lol.heavenly record eater
I believe 1 staff approval, and 1 staff disapproval, the OP hasnt updated their count in forever thoughWhat are the staff conclusions here so far, and what currently needs to be done here?
Uh, no offense to Phoenks.Disapproval
Uh.. yeah. They don't.Uh, no offense to Phoenks.
But I don't think FC/OC staff has the same degree of authority as VSBW staff regarding CRT.
Correct me if I'm wrong tho.
dont they have the vsbw tag? or is that given to all staff,regardless if they're in vsbwUh, no offense to Phoenks.
But I don't think FC/OC staff has the same degree of authority as VSBW staff regarding CRT.
Correct me if I'm wrong tho.
The tag is only for VSBW staff.dont they have the vsbw tag? or is that given to all staff,regardless if they're in vsbw
never mind, i cant read, yea i guess no staff disagreements thenThe tag is only for VSBW staff.
You can check list of Versus Battle wiki staff here.
I believe the problem is about what the context of "dimension" that author mean, if that higher dimension, then it definetly make yogiri 1A or low 1AAbout it being 1-A or L1-A, author has said that yogiri can ignore Dimensions as a property itself in a way that he can ignore even structures/space whose property is to not even have Dimensions, as per our FAQ, it's straight up 1-A, given that Dimensions as property doesn't matter to him and so take it to whatever amount is just unnecessary.
Dimensions being used as elements in Universe/space makes it pretty clear that it's axiomatic.I believe the problem is about what the context of "dimension" that author mean, if that higher dimension, then it definetly make yogiri 1A or low 1A
Well...... still not enough for say is a higher dimensionDimensions being used as elements in Universe/space makes it pretty clear that it's axiomatic.
I said 1-A would be fine in the case that I got the context for the Ultimate Ensemble quote which I still never really got.
@Ultima_Reality @Qawsedf234 @PrinceofPein @Everything12 @Planck69 @Ovy7 @TheUnshakableOneSo in the end.
Only Elizhaa vote is counted:
In case of misunderstanding.
@Phoenks is FC/OC staff and @AbaddonTheDisappointment is Calc member, their vote is not counted as Mod vote according to our rule.
@Ultima_Reality @Qawsedf234 @PrinceofPein @Everything12 @Planck69 @Ovy7 @TheUnshakableOne
What do you think about this?
To put it simply, it is a question directly asking the author "is Yogiri 1-A" and such leading questions are banned here and that is the basis for this upgradeThe question is literally a battleboarding question, that is banned here and cannot be used to upgrade a character, especially since nothing remotely close to dimensions stacking was said in the verse.
Anyway I disagree for this reason.
To put it simply, it is a question directly asking the author "is Yogiri 1-A" and such leading questions are banned here and that is the basis for this upgrade
I don't understand how it works to just write the ultimate ensemble and just write the ultimate essemble without adding any other mathematical terms, not even math or commentary. throughout the piece, r>f talks about imaginary worlds and passes the ultimate for this world, but there is not even any mathematical space or mathematical universe hypothesis.people really do be ignoring the ultimate ensemble thing
Will be taking a look, thanks for the heads-up@Planck69 @Celestial_Pegasus @Maverick_Zero_X @LephyrTheRevanchist what do you think about the thread?
I think my early response got helpful information.
I must preface this saying my knowledge of higher dimensions is not the best. However, this particular case is easier to understand for me since we do have precedent. As such, I have to agree with @Elizhaa breakdown.Ultimate Ensemble at its Lowest is Low 1-A; from the past threads like for The Downstreamers. Updated: As it stands, we currently rate this type of structure at Low 1-A to 1-A, as seen from this profile, and this thread. It can range from Low 1-A to Tier 0 with enough context.
- 「君が死ねば、世界が滅ぶ。そんなことを言わなければ、あるいはこうなってはなかったのかもしれない。でもまあ、それはそれでどうにかなったのかな。高遠夜霧こそが究極集合世界を規定する存在なのだから、逆にあれが死んでしまうほうが大問題だよ」
- 究極集合世界 (究極集合 - Ultimate Ensemble): https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/数学的宇宙仮説
I could see 1-A being valid from stacking dimensions being unreachable to Yogiri; existing outside the concept of dimensions should be tier 1-A, similar to what is described in the tiering system FAQ. I think it's fair that the author uses dimensions validity as higher dimensions given the evidence like the abyss world, 3-D space being mentioned, and UEG's fight, in the series.
There was supporting evidence UEG can destroy everything, which would include the Ultimate Set of Worlds or Ultimate Ensemble of worlds being just a dream to Yogiri.
High 1-A for ultimate ensemble needs way more context on advanced mathematics.
- One can say UEG and some powerful gods were killed after reaching a certain level where they could destroy the Ultimate Set of worlds/Ultimate Ensemble or all worlds: https://ncode.syosetu.com/n5691dd/239/
- At first, it could seem vague since Kouryu didn't seem to speak in absolute, but it seems clear that Ultimate Ensemble exists in verse with clear text or clear raws in Volume 14.
- Gods like UEG tier 1 can be handled in its own threads, I guess.
I agree with Pein@Ultima_Reality @Qawsedf234 @PrinceofPein @Everything12 @Planck69 @Ovy7 @TheUnshakableOne
What do you think about this?
「君が死ねば、世界が滅ぶ。そんなことを言わなければ、あるいはこうなってはなかったのかもしれない。でもまあ、それはそれでどうにかなったのかな。高遠夜霧こそが究極集合世界を規定する存在なのだから、逆にあれが死んでしまうほうが大問題だよ」
Additional contexts exist, like in my first reply about the gods. The ultimate set was mentioned and elaborated upon, but we got confirmation that it exists with clear raws.As for the Tegmark Multiverse, is this the only piece of evidence?
Because IMO it's not anywhere close to enough proof to validate a higher tier, it's just a vague mention of a concept.
Edit: I don't see why The Downstreamers are use as an example here. Anyone can go and read the scans on the profiles - the scans are extremely specific, to the point of breaking down that reality is math and the Ultimate Manifold are all possible universes based on mathematics.
Meanwhile, the above quote just namedrops Ultimate Assemble without any context or explanations of what it means in-universe.
I'm pretty sure this is the reason why it's being used in conjunction with the infinite dimensions QnA, which is supposed to be the supporting evidence.Basically, what would qualify for Tegmark's multiverse, would be a scan that directly states that in-universe this Ultimate Ensemble means all possible mathematical universes.