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But …. That just means they have souls? Were they stated in DB to not have souls? Because if not, Android 8 being rezzed means they have souls if there isn’t actually a stated contradiction.
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Yup.Couldn’t Android 8 being brought back by Shenron be another “Toriyama forgot” plot hole? Because og Dragon Ball does establish he’s totally a robot
BernThis person have robot arm, is it a non living being because it has mechanical parts?
Arale is purely mechanical, with no hearts and stuff, shown to be built, has inorganic physiology, and both androids are built by different people, in different settings. It's on you to prove she has a soul .But …. That just means they have souls? Were they stated in DB to not have souls? Because if not, Android 8 being rezzed means they have souls if there isn’t actually a stated contradiction.
Or Shenron simply repaired himCouldn’t Android 8 being brought back by Shenron be another “Toriyama forgot” plot hole? Because og Dragon Ball does establish he’s totally a robot
If it’s a different setting, why is anyone bringing up DB? Also being built by different people doesn’t mean anything when 8 is apparently purely mechanical as well.Arale is purely mechanical, with no hearts and stuff, shown to be built, has inorganic physiology, and both androids are built by different people, in different settings. It's on you to prove she has a soul .
Because both are canon ish. And yes built by different people means alot, even if 8 has a soul, you still have to actually prove that Arale has it tooIf it’s a different setting, why is anyone bringing up DB? Also being built by different people doesn’t mean anything when 8 is apparently purely mechanical as well.
They co-exist, yes, but they work differently from each other.Because both are canon ish. And yes built by different people means alot, even if 8 has a soul, you still have to actually prove that Arale has it too
Both are not the same verse, but both at the same time are linked.They co-exist, yes, but they work differently from each other.
yeah i am literally supporting that lolEver heard of something called repairs
Shenron can do that you know
If they are canon to each other, and one has a purely mechanical being having a soul, the path of least assumptions is that purely mechanical beings have souls in the verse.Because both are canon ish. And yes built by different people means alot, even if 8 has a soul, you still have to actually prove that Arale has it too
Because someone is trying to use it as a reason as to why Arale can be soul crushedIf it’s a different setting, why is anyone bringing up DB? Also being built by different people doesn’t mean anything when 8 is apparently purely mechanical as well.
I mean that would make sense if they are built by the same people, she alryhas inorganic physiology, so a moot point anywayIf they are canon to each other, and one has a purely mechanical being having a soul, the path of least assumptions is that purely mechanical beings have souls in the verse.
i stopped using 18 and 17 as examples.18 and 17 are humans with cybernetic enhancement, arale is a full on robot. You see the difference here?
Because 17 and 18 were not full fledged robots, and neither was Android 8 according to the Shenron example YOU brought. Or well, I should say Android 8 isn't soulless to be correct.
Android 8 would fit for inorganic physiology type 1.
Actually dr gero, a destroyed robot appeared in hell in Z, watching goku and co. fight buu.By your logic
All destroyed robots shoulf have appearred as souls then
But that Never happens at any point
Also IP2 states soul immunity so you cant argue against either without doing a ctr
Same author, and they exist within the same verse. Only reason why.If it’s a different setting, why is anyone bringing up DB? Also being built by different people doesn’t mean anything when 8 is apparently purely mechanical as well.
Not really, we only brought up these other robots having souls to prove simply being robotic isn't enough evidence for being soulless.Because both are canon ish. And yes built by different people means alot, even if 8 has a soul, you still have to actually prove that Arale has it too
Then that someone should just be ignored? If they have different verse mechanics and said verses are only tangentially connected, the Android 8 stuff is irrelevant.Because someone is trying to use it as a reason as to why Arale can be soul crushed
Good luck though since Robots that have been destroyed in Dr Slump don't appear as ghost but humans who have died have
I'm literally shockedyeah i am literally supporting that lol
hes canonically within the manga, and appears within the buu saga. and so is dr gero.Android 8's stuff is from a non canon movie anyway, why is it getting brought up?
Both are completely different verses, but somehow are linked to each other. Hell, God from DR Slump Who created all doesn't exist, nor it has any relevante in DB, instead we have Kami.Same author, and they exist within the same verse. Only reason why.
FILLERActually dr gero, a destroyed robot appeared in hell in Z, watching goku and co. fight buu.
That would just mean he's not shown in DB. And anyways is accepted on this wiki that both are within the same verse/canon to eachother by virtue of them getting abilities and scaling from crossovers.Both are completely different verses, but somehow are linked to each other. Hell, God from DR Slump Who created all doesn't exist, nor it has any relevante in DB, instead we have Kami.
I don't #@%!ing knowAndroid 8's stuff is from a non canon movie anyway, why is it getting brought up?
It has never worked like that. Quite the opposite actually.Also people bringing up that Arale has Type 2 Inorganic and therefore she resist Reiatsu Crush should re-read the Inorganic Physiology page.
Look at the full context, it says they "Typically" are immune to Soul Manipulation, not that their "Naturally" immune to Soul Manipulation. There's a burden on the people claiming that she being a robot allows her to resist Reiatsu Crush need to prove that her being a robot means she doesn't have a Soul.
- Non-Living Beings: Robots, AI or other inorganic beings, that have no consciousness beyond what the physical functions of their bodies grants them. This type of character is typically immune to Soul Manipulation due to lacking a soul and is also unaffected by many common forms of Mind Manipulation, since they neither have an organic brain to be manipulated nor have a non-physical consciousness. Since these characters usually also don't have something like life force and aren't alive in the usual sense in the first place, they are furthermore unaffected by common forms of Life Manipulation and Death Manipulation.
Buu saga kid buu fight was filler? Anime and manga are treated as separate verses.FILLER
Never happened in Canon Manga
What do you mean by this?It has never worked like that. Quite the opposite actually.
We have 0 proof that Kami from Dr Slump created the DB universe. Also, lol, not being 2-C instead of Low 2-CThat would just mean he's not shown in DB. And anyways is accepted on this wiki that both are within the same verse/canon to eachother by virtue of them getting abilities and scaling from crossovers.
basically it's the general assumptions that robots don't have soulsWhat do you mean by this?
Okay here is your proofLook at the full context, it says they "Typically" are immune to Soul Manipulation, not that their "Naturally" immune to Soul Manipulation. There's a burden on the people claiming that she being a robot allows her to resist Reiatsu Crush need to prove that her being a robot means she doesn't have a Soul.
All mighty is fate stuff right? She resists having her future being written by the author, completely ignoring It, would it be enough to resist All mighty?anyways SC really doesn't matter yhwach just almighties her away
She never appeared in Dragon Ball Z AnimeBuu saga kid buu fight was filler? Anime and manga are treated as separate verses.
Edit: And arale scales/takes scaling from dragon ball's anime.
This isn't proof? you claiming a bunch of things whiles not providing scans supporting said claims doesn't provided me with "Proof" of your assertion.Okay here is your proof
In the spirit world filled with eons of dead people
Only Souls of human figures are present
Not a single robot soul has ever been seen in the entire series
Ghosts and Spirits all human souls
Robots just get destroyed
Theres no need, the definition itself doesn't implies it acknowledges not all characters with it have no souls.She literally has inorganic physiology, so you want her to have a soul? Make a CTR about it. and why bring other robots that are built by different people, in different settings, and she already lacks a soul....
Yes we do. And in wiki its considered to share the same verse.We have 0 proof that Kami from Dr Slump created the DB universe. Also, lol, not being 2-C instead of Low 2-C
So your reasoning is that because robots aren't seen in the spirit world, therefore robots must not have souls? Ignoring i disproved that already within the thread, thats a massive argument from ignoranceOkay here is your proof
In the spirit world filled with eons of dead people
Only Souls of human figures are present
Not a single robot soul has ever been seen in the entire series
Ghosts and Spirits all human souls
Robots just get destroyed