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I think I mentioned that via the "size comparison" statement, yes. 2-A isn't necessarily needed for that shit to be kicked off into Tier 1 territory.
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Yggdrasil BDE Type 2 (God of War)
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Georredannea15
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I am absolutely sure that it is a 2-A structure.
Then the real key word here is "to be in a hyperspace according to the 4D universe" Because it wouldn't be enough to be infinitely bigger alone. Anyway, let's not derail any more.
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Honestly, doesn't really matter if it's 2-A or Low 2-C. If you have the transcendent statements and the size comparison statement of whatever else you need, it's a surefire way to get Low 1-C.
But yeah, derailing too much.
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BDE 2 basically doesn't do much other than resist spetial and time manipulations. Why would we want qualitative transcendence? Being independent and superior to space and time gives these
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I know, but GOW dosen't have spatial dimensions.
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How exactly is that relevant to BDE? That shit doesn't need qualitative superiority, Lephyr already elaborated on that.
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And i didn't say otherwise. Does GOW have any prove for spatial dimensions?
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What exactly do you mean by this? Are you asking if GoW has spatially separated universes?
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No, higher dimensions. No need for them to be superior though.
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Are you asking for higher-dimensional spatio-temporal dimensions?
Because in that case, no, because the size-comparison statement got nuked, otherwise Yggdrasil would be Low 1-C. That being said, spatial dimensions like that have no influence over BDE whatsoever.
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There is no need for qualitative superiority
BDE is revised to not need those anymore
as long as
1.) It lacks spatiotemporal feature
2.) for type 2 unaffected by Spatiotemporal stuff for being transcendent and lacking of it
3.) for type 2 they are transcendent of the spatiotemporal thing they are lacking
4.) for type 1 they can lack spatiotemporal feature but wouldn't be assumed to be superior or transcendent of it
With Yggydrassil being treated like an empty canvass before spatiotemporal stuff existed IMO that is sufficient
BDE is revised to not need those anymore
as long as
1.) It lacks spatiotemporal feature
2.) for type 2 unaffected by Spatiotemporal stuff for being transcendent and lacking of it
3.) for type 2 they are transcendent of the spatiotemporal thing they are lacking
4.) for type 1 they can lack spatiotemporal feature but wouldn't be assumed to be superior or transcendent of it
With Yggydrassil being treated like an empty canvass before spatiotemporal stuff existed IMO that is sufficient
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Where does it say structures in GOW are beyond or outside dimensions?
Having 3D or 4D cosmology isn't anywhere near beyond dimensional existence.
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And Yggdrasil dosen't have any of these.
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prove it
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You prove it that it has that.
I can prove that with simply saying it never mentions spatial dimensions like 4D or 5D.
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ok, so you can't convince me nor prove it to me.
therefore my decision still stands based on common knowledge
therefore my decision still stands based on common knowledge
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The 9 Realms are space-time continuums. Space-time by default is 4D. That doesn't need a statement. The realms' make-up consists of entirely of Runic magic and Jotnar Essence Magic. How do you think we got GoW magic to be 4D, and the LoA to surpass even that, and Yggdrasil beyond that?
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It's over guys... no spatial dimensions..... tier 11 verse.....
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Damn, so it was wank all along? OWARI DA...
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Blud, you don't need even that for BDE anymore. Just being outside of it counts.
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Bruh that just makes the question Gasper asked even stupider
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Not for type 2.
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Might wanna read BDE Type 2 again...
Type 2: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features and being superior to them in nature. These characters aren't necessarily superior to spacetime on every level, but just within the scope which they are shown. Due to transcending this spacetime they are immune to Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation of it. They furthermore inherit any benefits of Type 1.
Planck and Lephyr already stated as such. Hell, IIRC, Everything12 at one point also stated that you don't need transcendence for Type 2 either, just have to be outside of it.
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No?
Type 1 is simply independence, Type 2 is independence and outright superiority.
If Yggdrasil isn't superior and is just independent, it's just Type 1.
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I wasn't talking about superiority with regards to Yggdrasil, but as a thing in general.
That being said, BDE Type 2 doesn't require superiority in all aspects, as Lephyr and Planck have mentioned. It doesn't need full qualitative superiority package usually needed for Tier 1 (Which includes the size-comparison statements requirement), just the transcendence part is more than enough.
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i think what gasper is saying that you need to become 1-A to have BDE which were the old rules??? because it quite literally means 'beyond dimensional' which means 1-A
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If that's the case, that shit is long gone and dead.
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No, this is no longer needed for BDE Type 2.
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ik bruh i think gasper still thinks this rule applies
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And what I don't understand is that people are using the most ridiculous arguments I've ever seen in my life for not accepting BDE Type 2. We don't just use the phrase "transcending space-time" for BDE Type 2. I would recommend reading the OP more carefully, and also, space is also a spatial dimension.
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"it doesn't need full qualitative superiority"
What does that even mean? Elaborate
Name anyone on wiki who have BDE 2 accepted without being low 1C and up,as the idea of type 2 is superiority. It needs superiority and that's what makes it distinct from type 1. It didn't say independence or superiority but independence and superiority.
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Can't believe you actually asked such a question without even bothering to read the Tiering System page on what Qualitative Superiority is. Or even bothering to read everything I've been saying about "size-comparison statements" being one part of qualifying for Low 1-C which is not what this OP is targeting anyway.
Sniper, I'm gonna be frank, you're asking a lot of questions without actually reading what's in those ability pages and you're jumping at every God of War CRT with that kind of attitude for quite a while now. I don't know why you're doing this, but if it's out of some grudge because your favorite verses didn't get it, I'd very kindly ask you to drop it and take this in a more peaceful manner without lumping your verse's context into this, or wait for the staff to further clarify on what exactly any of this entails. Planck's here, Lephyr's here, they can all help.
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