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Yet another space-time addition to Dragon Ball cosmology

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If this accepted this would affect the standard cosmology or just the Toeiverse Cosmology

All changes to macrocosm structures affect both continuities, they’ve got shared cosmology due to current acceptance of belonging to the same 2-B multiverse.

AFAIK toei can be assumed to have U6, U10 only thing is that plot wise they’re never visited by the characters and feats are contained to U7.
 

Redoing the toei scaling accounting for 10x of grade 3

Perfect Cell is much stronger than Goku and Gohan, so >30.96 KiloFOE and 219 quadrillion FTL

Perfect Cell becomes enraged and enters a buff state similar to Grade 3 trunks , so >309.6 Kilofoe and < 219 quadrillion FTL

SS2 Gohan at 50% capacity was able to defeat Super Perfect Cell, so > 619.2 KiloFOE and 2.19 quintillion FTL. Every other SS2 is much stronger

Pikkon curbstomped Super Perfect Cell, so > 309.6 KiloFOEand 2.19 quintillion FTL

Goku as a Super Saiyan can fight equally with Pikkon, so 309.6 KiloFOE and 2.19 quintillion FTL

Goku as a SS2 was noted by Majin Vegeta to have surpassed Cell Games SS2 Gohan, so >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Base Gotenks is stronger than SS2 Vegeta, so > >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Innocent Buu stomped Base Gotenks, so > >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Gotenks increased his power tremendously in the RoSaT, so > 154.5 MegaFOE and 1.095 sextillion FTL

SSJ Gotenks is 50x stronger, so > 77.25 GigaFOE and 54.75 sextillion FTL

SS3 Goku shook the afterlife during the events of Fusion Reborn so 3-C+ and 54.75 sextillion FTL

SS3 Gotenks was match for Super Buu whom Goku initially claimed chance against so 3-B and 547.5 sextillion FTL

Ultimate Gohan was a match for Super Buu who massively increased his power by SS3 Gotenks, so At least 3-B and 547.5 sextillion FTL

After absorbing Ultimate Gohan and losing himself in a rage, Super Buu threatened to destroy all of the dimensions within the DB universe so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

Despite Buuhans increases in power Vegito was firmly superior to him even as SS1 so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

After entering Buus body and defusing, Goku could fight against a perfect copy of Ultimate Gohan whilst in base form, and could turn SSJ to quickly overwhelm him, so At least 3-B and 27.375 septillion FTL

Kid Buu is repeatedly stated to be the strongest Buu of them all, so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

SS3 Goku could match Kid Buu blow for blow, so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL


Major changes

- Grade 3 is a 10x multiplier and SS2 is a total 500x increase as a result

-Fat buu does no longer scales to SS3 Goku in any capacity due to explicit statements of him holding back against him

-SS3 Gotenks, Buutenks, Ultimate Gohan, and Super Buu no longer backscale to Buuhan as his mergers have unknown levels of amplification through hard feats making the previous assumption of additive increases unreliable for scaling.

- Goku is taken to have grown in power massively after defusing, but there is no back scaling between SS forms besides SS1 to base, so he only upscales from Ultimate Gohan up until SS3 where he is shown to be an even match for Kid Buu.

Edit:

Depending on interpretation SS1 Vegito can be up to 50x Buuhan due to his massive superiority to him even in whilst base, so 2-C and 13.68 octillion FTL
 
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Redoing the toei scaling accounting for 10x of grade 3

Perfect Cell is much stronger than Goku and Gohan, so >30.96 KiloFOE and 219 quadrillion FTL

Perfect Cell becomes enraged and enters a buff state similar to Grade 3 trunks , so >309.6 Kilofoe and < 219 quadrillion FTL

SS2 Gohan at 50% capacity was able to defeat Super Perfect Cell, so > 619.2 KiloFOE and 2.19 quintillion FTL. Every other SS2 is much stronger

Pikkon curbstomped Super Perfect Cell, so > 309.6 KiloFOEand 2.19 quintillion FTL

Goku as a Super Saiyan can fight equally with Pikkon, so 309.6 KiloFOE and 2.19 quintillion FTL

Goku as a SS2 was noted by Majin Vegeta to have surpassed Cell Games SS2 Gohan, so >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Base Gotenks is stronger than SS2 Vegeta, so > >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Innocent Buu stomped Base Gotenks, so > >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Gotenks increased his power tremendously in the RoSaT, so > 154.5 MegaFOE and 1.095 sextillion FTL

SSJ Gotenks is 50x stronger, so > 77.25 GigaFOE and 54.75 sextillion FTL

SS3 Goku shook the afterlife during the events of Fusion Reborn so 3-C+ and 54.75 sextillion FTL

SS3 Gotenks was match for Super Buu whom Goku initially claimed chance against so 3-B and 547.5 sextillion FTL

Ultimate Gohan was a match for Super Buu who massively increased his power by SS3 Gotenks, so At least 3-B and 547.5 sextillion FTL

After absorbing Ultimate Gohan and losing himself in a rage, Super Buu threatened to destroy all of the dimensions within the DB universe so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

Despite Buuhans increases in power Vegito was firmly superior to him even as SS1 so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

After entering Buus body and defusing, Goku could fight against a perfect copy of Ultimate Gohan whilst in base form, and could turn SSJ to quickly overwhelm him, so At least 3-B and 27.375 septillion FTL

Kid Buu is repeatedly stated to be the strongest Buu of them all, so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

SS3 Goku could match Kid Buu blow for blow, so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL


Major changes

- Grade 3 is a 10x multiplier and SS2 is a total 500x increase as a result

-Fat buu does no longer scales to SS3 Goku in any capacity due to explicit statements of him holding back against him

-SS3 Gotenks, Buutenks, Ultimate Gohan, and Super Buu no longer backscale to Buuhan as his mergers have unknown levels of amplification through hard feats making the previous assumption of additive increases unreliable for scaling.

- Goku is taken to have grown in power massively after defusing, but there is no back scaling between SS forms besides SS1 to base, so he only upscales from Ultimate Gohan up until SS3 where he is shown to be an even match for Kid Buu.
1. Didn't we agree that SSJ2 was a 20 times multiplier?

2. Base Vegito in the anime also scales to Buuhan, not just his SSJ1.

Rest is fine.
 
1. Didn't we agree that SSJ2 was a 20 times multiplier?

2. Base Vegito in the anime also scales to Buuhan, not just his SSJ1.

Rest is fine.
It’s actually debatable, when Buuhan performed his viceshout Vegito praised his current level of power, so it’s likely he actually surpassed his initial levels from when he fought Base Vegito, then again Base Vegito was also vastly superior to Buuhan from the start too so it makes little difference.

imo Vegito is at most 50x Buuhan whereas previously hed be cleanly at least 50 x times Buuhan.
 

Redoing the toei scaling accounting for 10x of grade 3

Perfect Cell is much stronger than Goku and Gohan, so >30.96 KiloFOE and 219 quadrillion FTL

Perfect Cell becomes enraged and enters a buff state similar to Grade 3 trunks , so >309.6 Kilofoe and < 219 quadrillion FTL

SS2 Gohan at 50% capacity was able to defeat Super Perfect Cell, so > 619.2 KiloFOE and 2.19 quintillion FTL. Every other SS2 is much stronger

Pikkon curbstomped Super Perfect Cell, so > 309.6 KiloFOEand 2.19 quintillion FTL

Goku as a Super Saiyan can fight equally with Pikkon, so 309.6 KiloFOE and 2.19 quintillion FTL

Goku as a SS2 was noted by Majin Vegeta to have surpassed Cell Games SS2 Gohan, so >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Base Gotenks is stronger than SS2 Vegeta, so > >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Innocent Buu stomped Base Gotenks, so > >3.096 MegaFOE and 21.9 quintillion FTL

Gotenks increased his power tremendously in the RoSaT, so > 154.5 MegaFOE and 1.095 sextillion FTL

SSJ Gotenks is 50x stronger, so > 77.25 GigaFOE and 54.75 sextillion FTL

SS3 Goku shook the afterlife during the events of Fusion Reborn so 3-C+ and 54.75 sextillion FTL

SS3 Gotenks was match for Super Buu whom Goku initially claimed chance against so 3-B and 547.5 sextillion FTL

Ultimate Gohan was a match for Super Buu who massively increased his power by SS3 Gotenks, so At least 3-B and 547.5 sextillion FTL

After absorbing Ultimate Gohan and losing himself in a rage, Super Buu threatened to destroy all of the dimensions within the DB universe so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

Despite Buuhans increases in power Vegito was firmly superior to him even as SS1 so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

After entering Buus body and defusing, Goku could fight against a perfect copy of Ultimate Gohan whilst in base form, and could turn SSJ to quickly overwhelm him, so At least 3-B and 27.375 septillion FTL

Kid Buu is repeatedly stated to be the strongest Buu of them all, so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL

SS3 Goku could match Kid Buu blow for blow, so 2-C and 273.75 septillion FTL


Major changes

- Grade 3 is a 10x multiplier and SS2 is a total 500x increase as a result

-Fat buu does no longer scales to SS3 Goku in any capacity due to explicit statements of him holding back against him

-SS3 Gotenks, Buutenks, Ultimate Gohan, and Super Buu no longer backscale to Buuhan as his mergers have unknown levels of amplification through hard feats making the previous assumption of additive increases unreliable for scaling.

- Goku is taken to have grown in power massively after defusing, but there is no back scaling between SS forms besides SS1 to base, so he only upscales from Ultimate Gohan up until SS3 where he is shown to be an even match for Kid Buu.

Edit:

Depending on interpretation SS1 Vegito can be up to 50x Buuhan due to his massive superiority to him even in whilst base, so 2-C and 13.68 octillion FTL
Will there be a change in the speed of the characters?
 
So currently the most accurate is how many uni for 1 DBS macroscom?
Lately, 6 Universes have been accepted, with this one it will be 7 Universes, but with the downgrade of Omega, only 5 will remain, but with my update the value of the Universes will continue to be 6 if the Omega topic passes.
 
Wow, 6 uni for 1 macroscom is really good
Really, that's because only one Universe has several dimensions on planets, like the room of time (which has totally different time), like the world of emptiness which is infinite.

There may still be other dimensions, I hope they are higher dimensions in terms of mathematics.
 
I guess its ok. It's pretty standard for an actual universe to be Low 2-C by default, and in this case of Dragon ball, if we already treat the separate dimensions (that are universal in size) in a macrocosom as Low 2-C individually then I see know reason why we wouldn't treat another universe in the macrocosom the same.

Though the constant DB cosmology threads are something I really don't want to keep getting asked to comment on please.
 
I guess its ok. It's pretty standard for an actual universe to be Low 2-C by default, and in this case of Dragon ball, if we already treat the separate dimensions (that are universal in size) in a macrocosom as Low 2-C individually then I see know reason why we wouldn't treat another universe in the macrocosom the same.

Though the constant DB cosmology threads are something I really don't want to keep getting asked to comment on please.
I understand, thank you very much! I'll count your vote and then you can close this, sorry for any kind of nuisance.
 
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