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When exactly were the effects of Purge stated to be dependant on power nullification?
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From my limited knowledge, the Wikia page for Monado Purge says that it works by basically nullifying the opponent's ability to use ether which comes with all the other haxes in response to the lack of Ether usage. Quibster's logic is if Goku resists the Nullification of Monado Purge, the after-shocks (Other haxes) does not take affect since it's a direct cause from the Nullification.Thatsafloridathing said:When exactly were the effects of Purge stated to be dependant on power nullification?
Monado Purge only works if it actually hits Goku. If Goku overpowers and knocks it away and/or destroys the Monado Purge attack, then Shulk's Monado Purge Hax is bypassed.Thatsafloridathing said:I think I'm a bit confused. How exactly would punting it away work?
Reasoning? Just for redundancy since previous threads hasn't always been entirely accurate.JoshSSJGod said:Oh yes and Shulk's Perception Manip does actually affect Ki Sensing. This was decided upon in Shulk and Goku's Low 2-C match were Shulk hax-stomped.
The fact that this Goku has access to Godly Ki which is entirely separate from normal Ki helps a ton.JoshSSJGod said:The wiki is inaccurate with a bunch of stuff. It was never stated to work like that and is contradicted by evidence shown in cutscenes.
Also if we're treating Ki and Ether as the same then what's stopping Shulk from just sapping all of Goku's Ki out of him?
It's logical deduction. Ether is inherently tied to life force given that... it is life force and the nullification of it would indeed cause perception and paralysis if one were to have a screwed up Ether system or whatever.Thatsafloridathing said:The wikia page doesn't say anything about nullifying the opponent's ability to use ether. It nullifies enemy auras and takes away passive abilities, but that doesn't have anything to do with perception manipulation or paralysis inducement.
I don't understand how he'd be able to destroy an attack that isn't inherently physical in nature.
Other than the fact that that's literally not on Shulk's page...?Schnee One said:Shulk via looking at infinite futures, picking one in which he wins, and wins.
Anyway
Any reason I don't close this for being a stomp?
I don't see why they're different. They're described the same and so far there's nothing that screams that they're different whatsoever.Quibster said:This wiki is also very inaccurate at times.
This is like the whole Bleach / Naruto energy argument all over again. They're both different. Period.
Precognition is on Shulk's Page. Picking and choosing a future is not.Schnee One said:Precognition is indeed on Shulks page actually.
I don't think that counts as Precog. Might as well give Diavolo that too if that's the basis behind you deeming this match a stomp between a likely 2-B and 2-B character.Schnee One said:Precognition is indeed on Shulks page actually.
Precognition is on Shulk's Page. Picking and choosing a future is not.Schnee One said:Precognition is indeed on Shulks page actually.
You can if you believe so but wouldn't a win-con for Goku be if Shulk makes a mistake like with his Lightning match?Schnee One said:Shulk via looking at infinite futures, picking one in which he wins, and wins.
Anyway
Any reason I don't close this for being a stomp?
Except the problem is that's a possible future. Unlike Yhwach, Shulk isn't able to actually choose a future.Schnee One said:Why would Diavolo have it? He doesn't look into the future last I checked.
@Akreious Isn't that the exact same thing? Performing the further by which you know will win is precognition, unless you're confusing that with fate Manip I.E. Yhwach
Shulk can still survive in space.BoomerKuwanger1 said:If the earth is deserted, Goku just blows up the plaanet to put Shulk down.
voting him.