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World of Darkness: Cosmology 1.5 TM/INC/LLC/CR

Udlmaster said:
I'll write it out:

The Universe (Low 2-C to High 1-A) < The Multiverse (Infinite Resenonces of the Universe with different logic system and containing them all) <...< Tapestry (Infinite levels of the Tapestry where duality breaks down)<...<The Low Umbra (Infinite levels of the Underworld) =< Middle Umbra <...< The Vulgate (Contains the concept of numbers, mathematics and more as their Platonic conception) <...< The Spires (Infinite levels and refractions of the Tree of Life, infinite concepts of Manifold Mountain with increasingly complexity) <...< The Epiphamies (Transcends the concept of concrete reality, with an infinite stack of Epiphamy realms layered on top of each other) < The Near and Far Horizon (An infinite sea of Magick extending beyond the Epiphamies as Space is to the Sky) <...< The Spheres of Magick (Contains the DoT scaling, an infinite series of ever greater gaps, where the 2nd Dot is able to manipulate Quintessence, the Archetype of Everything and warp Patterns. Pluto contains an infinite amount of Umbra representing every possible Time of Judgement scenario such as Lilith v Caine or Voormas and The Nameless King) < Deep Umbra (The power of Humanity breaks down here. Described as a Void stretching into Infinity and is beyond comprehension of even Mages) <...< The Fractured Cosmology (Connects all gamelines to one single unified Cosmology, each with it's own Umbra extending into the Far Horizon. Contains a greater than infinite amount of "Worlds", as the collection of similar and near Universes are infinite, yet there is also an infinite amount if radically different "Worlds") < Distance Shores (The entirety of Reality is a woven illusion) <...< The Infinite Tellurians (Each Tellurian is the totality of creation, containing not only all possibility and actuality, but all impossibility too. The Tellurians are smaller balled off sections of a Higher Tellurian, where things from a lower Tellurian is but a shadow in the Higher Tellurian) <<< The Higher Worlds (Creations of the Higher Aeons above the Demiurge, there's 8 to 30) <...< The Consensus hierarchy (An infinite series of greater consensuses, with the Mage consensus containing all previously said, with the Higher god consensus containing the Mage consensus and more beyond conception) < The Void (The Absolute, the end of the Road with nothing further to go. It is considered the end of conception itself. The Wyrm is considered to be the Void and is officially ranked as amongst the highest ranks of the Gods) < Alder Bole (The archetypal tree of even other Archetypal trees like the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Alder Bole covered the Void during its birth and stops the Wyld's essence from splattering across the Void) < The Supernal (The original Unity of the Triat which existed before the Void)
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So an infinite hierarchy of universes interesting. Could the same be said for multiverses within the Tapestry?
 
Dinoanime7 said:
So an infinite hierarchy of universes interesting. Could the same be said for multiverses within the Tapestry?
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Not within the Tapestry, but within the High Umbra, there's a system which created Multiverses based on any model, that would likely contain infinite Multiverses as it's based on the Turing Machine (a computer with infinite computational power)
 
Strong novel indeed, but does not surpass our king white and Blue Series any sooner 🔥
 
Udlmaster said:
Not within the Tapestry, but within the High Umbra, there's a system which created Multiverses based on any model, that would likely contain infinite Multiverses as it's based on the Turing Machine (a computer with infinite computational power)
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Is there any quote about how higher tellurian views the lower one as Shadow?
 
Dread said:
It is a Chinese novel, there will be soon a cosmology upgrade that will be at the same level like urs if not stronger.
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How many layers into tier 0?
Wod as far as i see is like 4 to 5× immeasurable into 0 or tier -4/-5
 
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Udlmaster said:
If the Chinese novel is Inaccessible layers into 0, WoD's already passed that by being beyond infinite layers into 0
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Ignore us, Dread just feels like bragging.

But to clarify, by Inaccessible Layers, we mean, the 1st Inaccessible Layer is beyond any extension of infinite layers into Tier 0, then the second Inaccessible Layer is beyond any extension of infinite layers of the 1st Inaccessible Layer, the second Inaccessible Layer is beyond any extension of infinite layers of the 2nd Inaccessible Layer.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Ignore us, Dread just feels like bragging.

But to clarify, by Inaccessible Layers, we mean, the 1st Inaccessible Layer is beyond any extension of infinite layers into Tier 0, then the second Inaccessible Layer is beyond any extension of infinite layers of the 1st Inaccessible Layer, the second Inaccessible Layer is beyond any extension of infinite layers of the 2nd Inaccessible Layer.
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Oh yeah, I see, well yeah WoD does that too:

The Tapestry as a whole has infinite layers, and contains all of them. There would be no amount of layers which would be able to fill the Tapestry, so that would be 1st Inaccessible.

The 2nd Inaccessible would then be the Low Umbra's infinite layers, which exists within the Umbra beyond the Tapestry, so on and so forth.
 
Udlmaster said:
Oh yeah, I see, well yeah WoD does that too:

The Tapestry as a whole has infinite layers, and contains all of them. There would be no amount of layers which would be able to fill the Tapestry, so that would be 1st Inaccessible.

The 2nd Inaccessible would then be the Low Umbra's infinite layers, which exists within the Umbra beyond the Tapestry, so on and so forth.
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Ye like that.
 
Udlmaster said:
Oh yeah, I see, well yeah WoD does that too:

The Tapestry as a whole has infinite layers, and contains all of them. There would be no amount of layers which would be able to fill the Tapestry, so that would be 1st Inaccessible.

The 2nd Inaccessible would then be the Low Umbra's infinite layers, which exists within the Umbra beyond the Tapestry, so on and so forth.
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Oh alright, this summed up then. So they are both rather similar in nature.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Ye like that.
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Yeah, well you'd then have to consider the recursions:

So, you'd have the Dot scaling, which would contain everything before it and have an exponentially bigger gap each time, the difference between a Regular human and itself each time.

Not even the mention then the Consensus hierarchy
 
I assume Ultima rated till high 1-A according to OP. It is question if tier 0 are legit (which they are, OP did an absolute good job on this). But ya, I remembered when tier 0 CRTs are created, they got flooded by members.
 
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