Why hasn't this been done yet after the upgrades: The Dovahkiin vs Gilgamesh (Fate)

[Xmark12]

The Dovahkii

vs

Gilgamesh (Fate Series)

Rules:

• Peak Dovahkiin (Dragonborn DLC) vs Peak Gilgamesh (Original Power/Alive)

• Speed equalized.

• In-character.

• Win by death once.

• The battle takes place in the city of Uruk itself. Gilgamesh wants to get this mongrel out of his city while the Dovahkiin wants to take down Gilgamesh's oppressive rein.

• The two are about fifty meters away from each other.

• Other than those, Standard Battle Assumptions apply.

Score:

Dovahkiin: 0

Gilgamesh: 0

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Junkoposter]

you mad man

 

[Junkoposter]

so does Dova have ALL of his stuff?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Something something Low 1-C artefacts

 

[Junkoposter]

I can't believe Gil is heccin ded ovo

 

[Ogbunabali]

Low 2-C artifacts.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Low 2-C artifacts.

From what I have saw on other threads, its Low 1-C

And Prisoner Methaphysics is 1-A

 

[Ogbunabali]

Well whoever says that is wrong. The artifacts you use != the same thing the Daedric Princes use.

And Prisoner Metaphysics isn't a tier.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Shouldn't Dova have a Low 1-C key then?

 

[Junkoposter]

aaaaand this is my cue to un-follow the threa ovo

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

1-A soul

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

And High 1-B resistances

 

[Ogbunabali]

Where are you getting all of these tiers from?

Please stop spreading false information.

 

[StrongClick]

Prisoner Methaphysic auto win

 

[PsychoWarper]

Ultima and/or Matt are gonna have an aneurysm

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Well Matthew told me he had 1-A soul resistance before.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

And Im just saying what knowledgeable people told on other threads

 

[Ogbunabali]

Stop parroting stuff you have misunderstood or read without applying any context to.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

No context?

"Staff of Magnus = Capable of nullifying all sorts of energies and reality warping. It can destroy the high complex multiverse with its massive, infinite, metaphysical output alone. In TES, many people could not destroy the world because the staff has a limiter. In VS debates, the plot limiter does not apply.

Skeleton Key = Unlock everything. LITERALLY EVERYTHING, even concepts and abstracts. The Skeleton Key is way more powerful. Just imagine, The Dovahkiin wants to unlock and steal the Sage, he can just do it. This one is much better, The Dovahkiin can use the Key to create an exact shadow of Rimuru, and this shadow has exact power as Rimuru fighting for Dovahkiin as Nocturnal once did with Sotha Sil (Both Nocturnal and Sotha Sil are Low 1-C gods).

Mehrunes Razor = Change reality through law, abstract, concept, reality manipulation. It is similar to Skeleton Key, but you required to have a certain knowledge about what you want to do. The Razor is so sharp that it can cut through everything, even changing history can be done through "cutting". The Razor is so powerful that it can make one into a Daedric Prince (Mehrunes Dagon was a lowly Daedra becoming a Prince due to a Magna Ge using the Razor), or alter the impossible metaphysic laws of Low 1-C gods (Mankar Camoran cuts through Akatosh to become a Dragonborn).

Spellbreaker = Nullifies all spells and magical attacks. It can do it before one can even think, and shield can read the future along with all possibilities to make sure it can prevent mages casting any spell at all. It is a Low 1-C artifact channeled by the power of Peyrite, Daedric Prince of Pestillence himself.

etc..."

(From the Rimuru vs Dovah thread)

There is your reasoning and context about Low 1-C artefacts. If you disagree with this, you should talk with KongKing23, he is knowleadgeable on the verse

 

[Ogbunabali]

All of that is from KonKing and he is known to wank a lot (no offense to him) you shouldn't follow everything he says like gospel.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Stop parroting stuff you have misunderstood or read without applying any context to.

All beings in TES have 1-A AE. Because all things in the Dream on a fundamental level are composed of AE. The soul in TES has two layers basically, the Animus and the AE. The Animus is the skin that is composed of personality, experiences and memories, and is recycled endlessly with each reincarnation. The AE is the primal state of Being that defines one's Existence on a fundamental level, which predates the invention of the concepts of Space and Time before the Aurbis formed and the Et'Ada erupted from infinite ineffability.

Because every souls in Elder Scrolls was once an Et'Ada, an Original Spirit unbound by everything save their own consciousness. Quoting Crowley, "Every Man and every Woman is a Star". Which is related to the concept of CHIM which is realizing this truth about yourself and uncoiling the winged splendor of your soul and ascending to royalty to wear a crown of starlight among the heavens.

So yes, the Dovahkiin has a 1-A soul. All things have. - Matt

 

[Ogbunabali]

@Sigurd

And this is Ultima's direct response to that.

"The Soul in TES has two different aspects: The Animus, which is the skin where an individual's magickal reserves, memories, lifeforce and overall individuality is contained. It's pretty much the "Soul" in the proper sense and what gets affected by Soul Gem shenanigans."

"Then there is the AE, which as a concept is vague and referenced only a few times in the lore. But it can be inferred through some external sources to be the non-dual "Divine Spark" rooted within every Mortal Spirit, which is untouched by either space and time, and is basically the part of their being through which one can achieve enlightenment and this transcendence and union with the Universe and all that shit. So yeah, it is basically the "1-A Soul" Matt talked about in that thread."

"it's pretty much inconsequential in regards to vs threads tho, so lol"

 

[StrongClick]

"Dovah already had precog. His Prisoner physiology allows him outside of Time, and "walk all path" with perception of all possibilities. Even a possibility of 99.99% losing does not work The Prisoner physiology (The Vestige has the same metaphysic)." - KongKing23

 

[Ogbunabali]

So please stop talking about things you have no idea about, you give Elder Scrolls matches a bad name.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Alright people, let's all chillout. No need to get heated over this.

 

[Waria_Kambang]

Well, this thread goes south fast.

OT: All Daedric Artifacts are low 2-C, but artifact such as the Staff of Magnus is low 1-C in potency from in-game feat (nullifying the Eye of Magnus that Ancano was going to use to destroy Mundus). Now excuse me, i've to go.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I can already tell this is going to be fun.

So in the meantime, bladespam GG

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Ea + Bladespam FRA

 

[Xmark12]

I can't tell if these are actual votes or not, lmao.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Press A to Doubt Low 2-C Gil

 

[Schnee_One]

B

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

B

Scaling chain to get there seems to make sense. Kama = GO Kiara < CCC Kiara =< CCC Gil

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

C

 

[Xmark12]

Bump for the bump Gods.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Press A to Doubt Low 2-C Gil

or try to make a debunk thread instead lol

 

[Dragopentling]

Whelp sh**, here we go again.