Why don't Spider-Verse characters have dimensional travel range across the entire Marvel Multiverse?

[sasuke431]

Phil Lord and Christopher Miller commentary makes it clear that the spider-verse and mcu share the same cosmology

Separately, Given that Miguel visits Earth-67, a timeline unrelated to the MCU, and Spot visits Earth-13122, and that Spider-Society have a tarantula from the Ultimate Universe, shouldn't the range of dimensional travel be the entire Marvel multiverse?

 

[darkphantom9805]

We know they share the same cosmology like they mentioned the events of NWH in the film and dr strange

 

[Jason_Courne]

Phil Lord and Christopher Miller commentary makes it clear that the spider-verse and mcu share the same cosmology

The MCU is explicitly NOT connected to Spider-Verse according to Kemp Powers, easter eggs and references don't make things 100% canon to each other

But otherwise, yeah they should have interdimensional travel for visiting other universes in the Spider-Verse

 

[darkphantom9805]

according to Kemp Powers, easter eggs and references don't make things 100% canon to each other

Which is automatically wrong they literally talk about it being connected

Dr strange and the events of NWH is literally mentioned MCU prowler shows up in spidey verse along with tobey and Andrew Tom hardy venom verse shows up which spot explicitly talks to even one of the main character Mrs. Chen

 

[Jason_Courne]

Which is automatically wrong they literally talk about it being connected

This literally said how the Spider-Verse is supposed to be a different interpretation of the Multiverse

What does Richie Palmer have to do with this? He is only talking about Disney-Marvel properties, nothing about the Sony-verse

Branching timelines is in no way a unique concept, and they're still visually completely different

Dr strange and the events of NWH is literally mentioned MCU prowler shows up in spidey verse along with tobey and Andrew

If the creator goes nudge nudge wink wink towards another property, that doesn't make it canon. Not to mention Sony refers to it as Earth-199999, while the MCU refers to it as Earth-616

The concept of Spider-Verse = MCU-verse has already been talked about and practically rejected

 

[darkphantom9805]

This literally said how the Spider-Verse is supposed to be a different interpretation of the Multiverse

No it didn’t can you read please not very hard the bottom flat out says post Loki season 2

What does Richie Palmer have to do with this? He is only talking about Disney-Marvel properties, nothing about the Sony-verse

No way home happened which is an event that is mentioned in spiderverse and all the multiverse stuff happened because of Loki

Branching timelines is in no way a unique concept, and they're still visually completely different

What are you on about obviously they aren’t exactly the same because they didn’t have info on Loki s2 before hand which there is actually a wog somewhere that states it only looks different cause that reason but I lost the scan I’ll post it if I find it

If the creator goes nudge nudge wink wink towards another property, that doesn't make it canon. Not to mention Sony refers to it as Earth-199999, while the MCU refers to it as Earth-616

The concept of Spider-Verse = MCU-verse has already been talked about and practically rejected

My guy you do realize Sony isn’t the same earth as mcu the are apart of the verse not the same universe obviously they wouldn’t have the same number

Again it doesn’t matter what is rejected stupid stuff get rejected doesn’t make it true like we get more info all the time about things like if rejected then we find out 100% it’s true down the line are we saying well because it was rejected a long time ago it’s still rejected or wrong now obviously not anyway

Anyway wog + numerous mcu verse characters appearing + events of no way home being mentioned = canon no amount of mental gymnastics will change that

 

[Jason_Courne]

No it didn’t can you read please not very hard the bottom flat out says post Loki season 2

They literally talk about how people percieve the multiverse via the MCU due to Loki 2, and how through Spider-Verse they'll see "how it really is". It explicitly a different multiverse

No way home happened which is an event that is mentioned in spiderverse and all the multiverse stuff happened because of Loki

A fun reference doesn't make it canon, the MCU is universe 616, not 199999 because the cinematic universe is supposed to form it's own multiverse

What are you on about obviously they aren’t exactly the same because they didn’t have info on Loki s2 before hand which there is actually a wog somewhere that states it only looks different cause that reason but I lost the scan I’ll post it if I find it

Having the same generic branching timeline idea doesn't mean they're the same cosmos

My guy you do realize Sony isn’t the same earth as mcu the are apart of the verse not the same universe obviously they wouldn’t have the same number

Again it doesn’t matter what is rejected stupid stuff get rejected doesn’t make it true like we get more info all the time about things like if rejected then we find out 100% it’s true down the line are we saying well because it was rejected a long time ago it’s still rejected or wrong now obviously not anyway

The MCU is Earth 616, Spider-Verse already has it's own 616 and it is completely different from the MCU

Anyway wog + numerous mcu verse characters appearing + events of no way home being mentioned = canon no amount of mental gymnastics will change that

"Spider-Verse is a different depiction of the multiverse from Loki" "No the MCU is not canon" "Easter eggs and references don't make canon" = It's not canon

 

[sasuke431]

The MCU is Earth 616, Spider-Verse already has it's own 616 and it is completely different from the MCU

616 in Spiderverse is designated as 616B

There is no reason to conflict with MCU 616

This literally said how the Spider-Verse is supposed to be a different interpretation of the Multiverse


What does Richie Palmer have to do with this? He is only talking about Disney-Marvel properties, nothing about the Sony-verse


Branching timelines is in no way a unique concept, and they're still visually completely different


If the creator goes nudge nudge wink wink towards another property, that doesn't make it canon. Not to mention Sony refers to it as Earth-199999, while the MCU refers to it as Earth-616

The concept of Spider-Verse = MCU-verse has already been talked about and practically rejected

From the leak, it looks like the Spider-Verse multiverse is also in Yggdrasil.

Furthermore, according to marvunapp's explanation, the Earths from what if are described as timelines that branched off from Earth 199999, so Earth 199999 is also an official setting

In the MCU multiverse, it's 616, but in the Marvel multiverse as a whole, it's 199999.

 

[sasuke431]

We know they share the same cosmology like they mentioned the events of NWH in the film and dr strange

I agreed that we share the same cosmology.

However, I think the scope of dimensional travel should be changed to the entire Marvel multiverse since the movies show that you can visit timelines that have nothing to do with the MCU and even timelines from the comics.

 

[Jason_Courne]

616 in Spiderverse is designated as 616B

There is no reason to conflict with MCU 616

Peter B Parker's universe is repeatedly referred to as 616 throughout the first film and in the Across the Spider-Verse art book and even screenplay, and they refer to MCU-616 as 199999

From the leak, it looks like the Spider-Verse multiverse is also in Yggdrasil.

Furthermore, according to marvunapp's explanation, the Earths from what if are described as timelines that branched off from Earth 199999, so Earth 199999 is also an official setting

Comparing timelines to a branching tree is a pretty common metaphor for multiversal fiction, just because Spider-Verse also uses the same metaphor doesn't mean they're intrinsically linked as canon

It was only referred to as Earth 199999 back when the MCU was just a singular universe / timeline, but since then MCU has grown to establish it's own separate multiverse from the comic universe, the mainline universe of the MCU has become Earth 616

 

[sasuke431]

Peter B Parker's universe is repeatedly referred to as 616 throughout the first film and in the Across the Spider-Verse art book and even screenplay, and they refer to MCU-616 as 199999


Comparing timelines to a branching tree is a pretty common metaphor for multiversal fiction, just because Spider-Verse also uses the same metaphor doesn't mean they're intrinsically linked as canon

It was only referred to as Earth 199999 back when the MCU was just a singular universe / timeline, but since then MCU has grown to establish it's own separate multiverse from the comic universe, the mainline universe of the MCU has become Earth 616

marvunapp says that the Earth-67 Spider-Man from the Spider-Verse comics is the same person as the 67 Spider-Man from the Spider-Verse animated series.

And ATSV used the numbering 1610A to differentiate the Comics Ultimate Universe from 1610B, and Dan Slott actually stated specifically that designation for Ultimate Tarantula was much deliberated upon.

Furthermore, the A B numbering in ATSV, which hasn't been done before, fits nicely with the theory that the conflicting Marvel properties are different multiverses and are tied together by the Megaverse.

The MCU can be thought of as a separate multiverse from the comics universe, but it coexists with the comics universe in the grand scheme of the Megaverse.

 

[sasuke431]

Comparing timelines to a branching tree is a pretty common metaphor for multiversal fiction, just because Spider-Verse also uses the same metaphor doesn't mean they're intrinsically linked as canon

Based on the leaks I've seen, the MCU Multiverse is a concept that includes not only timelines that branch off of the sacred timeline, but also timelines that crossover with the MCU Multiverse.

Then I looked up more articles and it's already official, brad winderbaum said that x-men 97 is not a sacred timeline, but it can be connected to the mcu multiverse.

 

[Jason_Courne]

marvunapp says that the Earth-67 Spider-Man from the Spider-Verse comics is the same person as the 67 Spider-Man from the Spider-Verse animated series.

I have no idea what that is

Furthermore, the A B numbering in ATSV, which hasn't been done before, fits nicely with the theory that the conflicting Marvel properties are different multiverses and are tied together by the Megaverse.

The MCU and comics are completely separate properties, there is no reason to believe they share any common ground now that the MCU has become it's own entire multiverse with infinite timelines, universes, and countless parallel dimensions

Then I looked up more articles and it's already official, brad winderbaum said that x-men 97 is not a sacred timeline, but it can be connected to the mcu multiverse.

Not at all, he just said Loki S2 / multiverse stories left more room for fanon imagination

 

[sasuke431]

I have no idea what that is

it's an official resource since most reality designations are obtained from that website.

The MCU and comics are completely separate properties, there is no reason to believe they share any common ground now that the MCU has become it's own entire multiverse with infinite timelines, universes, and countless parallel dimensions

In fact, marvunapp describes the worlds of Infinity Ultron, Doctor Strange Supreme, and Captain Carter as branching off of Earth 199999

The Megaverse is itself a collection of disparate self-contained multiverses.

The MCU is MCU-616 in the MCU's own multiverse, but it's Earth-199999 in the larger unit called the Megaverse.

Not at all, he just said Loki S2 / multiverse stories left more room for fanon imagination

Winderbaum says. “Even though ‘X-Men ‘97″ is not in the sacred timeline, there is a universe of ‘90s cartoons that we know. Because of ‘Loki’ and every other multiverse story, we know that if your brain wants to go there, you know there’s always potential for connections.”

If the MCU is not 199999 and the claim is that the comics and MCU are completely separate properties, shouldn't that negate any possibility of a connection?

 

[Jason_Courne]

it's an official resource since most reality designations are obtained from that website.

Yeah... my browser automatically says the site is unsecure and I couldn't even get it up for the first few tries. Is there any actual proof it's official?

In fact, marvunapp describes the worlds of Infinity Ultron, Doctor Strange Supreme, and Captain Carter as branching off of Earth 199999

Yes because those are specifically a part of the MCU's What If...? tv show

The MCU is MCU-616 in the MCU's own multiverse, but it's Earth-199999 in the larger unit called the Megaverse.

EARTH 199999 ONLY REFERS TO THE UNIVERSE not the Multiverse

Winderbaum says. “Even though ‘X-Men ‘97″ is not in the sacred timeline, there is a universe of ‘90s cartoons that we know. Because of ‘Loki’ and every other multiverse story, we know that if your brain wants to go there, you know there’s always potential for connections.”

If the MCU is not 199999 and the claim is that the comics and MCU are completely separate properties, shouldn't that negate any possibility of a connection?

"Even though ‘X-Men ‘97″ is NOT in the sacred timeline (NOT CANON TO THE MCU)
Because of ‘Loki’ and every other multiverse story, we know that if YOUR (THE FAN'S) brain wants to go there, you know there’s always potential for connections"

He directly says it's not canon, but the fans can make up their own connections / fanon

 

[sasuke431]

Yeah... my browser automatically says the site is unsecure and I couldn't even get it up for the first few tries. Is there any actual proof it's official?

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z Vol 1 2 says to refer to marvunapp

EARTH 199999 ONLY REFERS TO THE UNIVERSE not the Multiverse

My intention was that Earth 199999 is a sacred timeline

"Even though ‘X-Men ‘97″ is NOT in the sacred timeline (NOT CANON TO THE MCU)
Because of ‘Loki’ and every other multiverse story, we know that if YOUR (THE FAN'S) brain wants to go there, you know there’s always potential for connections"

He directly says it's not canon, but the fans can make up their own connections / fanon

In other interviews, he has used the phrase "not canon of the sacred timeline" when referring to works that are not Earth 199999

He once said that not being canon of the sacred timeline doesn't mean it's not canon of the MCU multiverse.

And the head writer of What If hasn't denied the connection to the comics multiverse.

 

[sasuke431]

Comparing timelines to a branching tree is a pretty common metaphor for multiversal fiction, just because Spider-Verse also uses the same metaphor doesn't mean they're intrinsically linked as canon

In the filmmaker commentary, writer and producer Christopher Miller points this fact out saying: “And here we are looking at a familiar tree… of how people perceive the multiverse in– in other Marvel properties. And now we get to see…” Phil Lord continues with: “How it really is.”

Doesn't that imply that it's connected to the mcu multiverse?

and Concept Art confirms that Prowler was the MCU version

 

[Jason_Courne]

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z Vol 1 2 says to refer to marvunapp

Image doesn't load, but anyways that would automatically be incorrect information since the MCU is it's own explicit multiverse and the main universe is deemed Earth 616

My intention was that Earth 199999 is a sacred timeline

Earth 199999 Does not exist, The MCU is Earth 616 and is its own multiverse. The only time 199999 is ever used is in reference to the former name of the MCU when it was a singular universe

In other interviews, he has used the phrase "not canon of the sacred timeline" when referring to works that are not Earth 199999

He once said that not being canon of the sacred timeline doesn't mean it's not canon of the MCU multiverse.

And the head writer of What If hasn't denied the connection to the comics multiverse.

Writer said nothing about the comic universe

In the filmmaker commentary, writer and producer Christopher Miller points this fact out saying: “And here we are looking at a familiar tree… of how people perceive the multiverse in– in other Marvel properties. And now we get to see…” Phil Lord continues with: “How it really is.”

No because they explicitly make the distinction of OTHER properties

 

[sasuke431]

Image doesn't load, but anyways that would automatically be incorrect information since the MCU is it's own explicit multiverse and the main universe is deemed Earth 616


Earth 199999 Does not exist, The MCU is Earth 616 and is its own multiverse. The only time 199999 is ever used is in reference to the former name of the MCU when it was a singular universe

Earth-29929 Diverged from reality-199999 in 2014. Ultron uploaded himself into a Mind Stone-powered Vibranium body and eradicated humanity, then killed Thanos who had the other Infinity Stones. Using all six Stones, Ultron eradicated all life in his universe except for Black Widow. Ultron became aware of the Watcher observing his reality and broke free from his universe, pursuing and battling the Watcher across realities. The Watcher assembled the Guardians of the Multiverse to battle Ultron, who were joined by this reality's Black Widow. She uploaded Arnim Zola's mind into Ultron's body, which he took over before being restrained by Strange Supreme. As a reward, the Watcher transported Widow from this now lifeless universe to Earth-51825, where she helped defeat that reality's Loki. What If...? Season 1 Episode 8 What If... Ultron Won? (2021)

The Appendix is much more complete than any printed Handbook will ever be, and it does take into account what is and isn't "canon."

Just because the MCU has expanded into a complex multiverse doesn't mean mcu should be left out of the Marvel Universe

No because they explicitly make the distinction of OTHER properties

I looked up an interview from 2 years ago and it says Spider-Verse films to connect to the MCU via the multiverse.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Earth-29929 Diverged from reality-199999 in 2014. Ultron uploaded himself into a Mind Stone-powered Vibranium body and eradicated humanity, then killed Thanos who had the other Infinity Stones. Using all six Stones, Ultron eradicated all life in his universe except for Black Widow. Ultron became aware of the Watcher observing his reality and broke free from his universe, pursuing and battling the Watcher across realities. The Watcher assembled the Guardians of the Multiverse to battle Ultron, who were joined by this reality's Black Widow. She uploaded Arnim Zola's mind into Ultron's body, which he took over before being restrained by Strange Supreme. As a reward, the Watcher transported Widow from this now lifeless universe to Earth-51825, where she helped defeat that reality's Loki. What If...? Season 1 Episode 8 What If... Ultron Won? (2021)

Yeah but the main universe of the MCU is 616, not 199999. The MCU is it's own multiverse with it's own variations of universes completely separate from the comics multiverse

I looked up an interview from 2 years ago and it says Spider-Verse films to connect to the MCU via the multiverse.

Text has nothing related to the multiverse and I'm not listening to a 30 minute interview for a 5 second snippet

 

[sasuke431]

Yeah but the main universe of the MCU is 616, not 199999. The MCU is it's own multiverse with it's own variations of universes completely separate from the comics multiverse

According to the Appendix, MCU-616=199999A

Appendix also mentions what if events, so it's not a separate universe

Yeah but the main universe of the MCU is 616, not 199999. The MCU is it's own multiverse with it's own variations of universes completely separate from the comics multiverse

Text has nothing related to the multiverse and I'm not listening to a 30 minute interview for a 5 second snippet

Okay.

I just brought it up because in the 30 minute interview they clearly mentions that MCU and spider-verse share same multiverse

 

[Jason_Courne]

According to the Appendix, MCU-616=199999A

According to the MCU itself... 616 = 616 and is a completely separate multiverse

 

[sasuke431]

According to the MCU itself... 616 = 616 and is a completely separate multiverse

If MCU has its own numbering system that differs from the comics, that's okay

Even multiverses of different nature are eventually lumped into a larger unit called a megaverse.

Why are you denying it when the appendix even mentions what if...?'s events?

 

[sasuke431]

According to the MCU itself... 616 = 616 and is a completely separate multiverse

marvel comics multiverse + mcu multiverse = marvel universe

The universe that is 616 in the MCU's numbering system is 199999 in Marvel Comics's numbering system, as described in the Appendix and ATSV

 

[Jason_Courne]

If MCU has its own numbering system that differs from the comics, that's okay

Or they're different multiverses

Even multiverses of different nature are eventually lumped into a larger unit called a megaverse.

Is there any evidence the Sony-Verse has access to the "Megaverse"? No they only have access to the Sony Multiverse

marvel comics multiverse + mcu multiverse = marvel universe

Marvel Comics is it's own thing, the MCU is it's own thing

The universe that is 616 in the MCU's numbering system is 199999 in Marvel Comics's numbering system, as described in the Appendix and ATSV

ATSV isn't refering to the proper multiversal 616 for the MCU and are only referring to the singular universal 199999

 

[sasuke431]

Or they're different multiverses

The set of different multiverses is the megaverse

Is there any evidence the Sony-Verse has access to the "Megaverse"? No they only have access to the Sony Multiverse

Miguel in 928B has already accessed Earth 67 and Earth 1048
(Both universes are described in Appendix/In-game as being the same universe as the one in the Spider-Verse comics)

He also recruited the Ultimate Tarantula to the Spider Society.

ATSV isn't refering to the proper multiversal 616 for the MCU and are only referring to the singular universal 199999

If Miguel uses comics's numbering system, It's no problem
(Omit the B alphabet after the universe number and use the)

 

[sasuke431]

Or they're different multiverses


Is there any evidence the Sony-Verse has access to the "Megaverse"? No they only have access to the Sony Multiverse


Marvel Comics is it's own thing, the MCU is it's own thing


ATSV isn't refering to the proper multiversal 616 for the MCU and are only referring to the singular universal 199999

They've already referred to MCU-616 as 199999 in the Appendix when referring to the mcu what if, and in the ATSV when the events of NWH are mentioned, MCU-616 cannot be a separate universe from 199999.

Marvel Multiverse explicitly includes all Marvel media: unreleased stuff, promotional videos, humorous stories and so on. MCU had explicitly interacted with the wider Marvel Multiverse in Across the Spider-Verse. There's nothing else to add to this matter

 

[Jason_Courne]

They've already referred to MCU-616 as 199999 in the Appendix when referring to the mcu what if, and in the ATSV when the events of NWH are mentioned, MCU-616 cannot be a separate universe from 199999.

The MCU itself refers to itself as 616 and exists within it's own completely separate multiverse. The direct canon of the movies themselves overide some secondary lore books like the Appendix

Miguel in 928B has already accessed Earth 67 and Earth 1048

Or... they could just be the Spider-Verse version of those universes

Marvel Multiverse explicitly includes all Marvel media: unreleased stuff, promotional videos, humorous stories and so on. MCU had explicitly interacted with the wider Marvel Multiverse in Across the Spider-Verse. There's nothing else to add to this matter

Except they haven't at all save for cheeky easter eggs and that's it

 

[sasuke431]

Or... they could just be the Spider-Verse version of those universes

In the appendix and in game, it's confirmed that those universes are the same universes from the Spider-Verse comics, and even Ultimate Tarantula is from the Comics Ultimate Universe, so why deny it?

 

[Jason_Courne]

In the appendix and in game, it's confirmed that those universes are the same universes from the Spider-Verse comics, and even Ultimate Tarantula is from the Comics Ultimate Universe, so why deny it?

Because the MCU literally says "No"

 

[sasuke431]

The MCU itself refers to itself as 616 and exists within it's own completely separate multiverse. The direct canon of the movies themselves overide some secondary lore books like the Appendix

616 as a numbering system in the MCU can't be a separate universe from 199999 in the comics when we've already seen the connection to ssu in NWH and interviews and leaks have shown that they share the same multiverse as Spider-Verse.

 

[sasuke431]

Because the MCU literally says "No"

Since the connection to the ssu has already been made in NWH, there is no problem if the numbering system is MCU-specific.

Also, according to the leak, Marvel Studios will not be ignoring the Spider-Verse movie's setup

 

[Jason_Courne]

Since the connection to the ssu has already been made in NWH, there is no problem if the numbering system is MCU-specific.
Also, according to the leak, Marvel Studios will not be ignoring the Spider-Verse movie's setup

It's been explicitly stated multiple times the MCU and the Spider-Verse are doing different things. Spider-Verse would portray the multiverse differently from the other Marvel properties like Loki, Spider-Verse is explicitly separate from the MCU any references to that continuity are entirely fun meta references, the Spider-Verse refers to the MCU as a completely incorrect term, the MCU has become it's own multiverse with a completely different cosmology

The Directors have repeatedly stated the MCU is not a part of Spider-Verse, the MCU itself has explicitly separated itself from the Comic and Spider-Verse Multiverse cosmology

 

[sasuke431]

It's been explicitly stated multiple times the MCU and the Spider-Verse are doing different things. Spider-Verse would portray the multiverse differently from the other Marvel properties like Loki, Spider-Verse is explicitly separate from the MCU any references to that continuity are entirely fun meta references, the Spider-Verse refers to the MCU as a completely incorrect term, the MCU has become it's own multiverse with a completely different cosmology

199999 is not an incorrect designation, so why do you keep saying it is?

According to the leak, the reason Miguel didn't designate the MCU as 616 in the first place is because there are already two districts with 616, so he used numbering based on the comics.

The Directors have repeatedly stated the MCU is not a part of Spider-Verse, the MCU itself has explicitly separated itself from the Comic and Spider-Verse Multiverse cosmology

And in the case of the Spider-Verse series, the writer has more authority than the director and oversees the series

First and foremost, as stated in the interview, Sony wanted to tie it to the MCU first, so it's tied to the MCU regardless of the director's intentions

 

[sasuke431]

It's been explicitly stated multiple times the MCU and the Spider-Verse are doing different things. Spider-Verse would portray the multiverse differently from the other Marvel properties like Loki, Spider-Verse is explicitly separate from the MCU any references to that continuity are entirely fun meta references, the Spider-Verse refers to the MCU as a completely incorrect term, the MCU has become it's own multiverse with a completely different cosmology

According to the leak, Miguel named the MCU 199999 because he found a lot more universe than 838 Christine

In addition, the events of NWH have already connected mcu to ssu

 

[Jason_Courne]

199999 is not an incorrect designation, so why do you keep saying it is?

Because the MCU itself says "No"

According to the leak, Miguel named the MCU 199999 because he found a lot more universe than 838 Christine

"The world of Miles Morales and Spider-Verse, it's not tied into the Marvel Cinematic Universe or anything like that. But this is a Lord and Miller film. We like to have a little bit of fun, we like to be a little bit meta and to acknowledge the world in which we are creating these stories. That's the best way to explain it." - Kemp Powers

It's nothing more than a meta reference to the MCU

 

[sasuke431]

Because the MCU itself says "No"

If 199999 is not an mcu-616 as claimed, then NWH is not canon...

It's nothing more than a meta reference to the MCU

The Spider-Verse universe is overseen by Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, and Sony has said in audio interviews that they intended for the universes to be connected, so it doesn't matter what the director's intentions are

 

[Jason_Courne]

If 199999 is not an mcu-616 as claimed, then NWH is not canon...

Because that was entirely a meta reference as explicitly stated by Kemp Powers.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe says it's separate, the directors say they're separate, and Sony's been building a completely different Multiverse via it's weird movies

 

[sasuke431]

Because that was entirely a meta reference as explicitly stated by Kemp Powers.

I meant to say that the connection to the ssu is confirmed because of the ssu's venom from the NWH.

And with Phil Lord & Christopher Miller in charge of the Spider-Verse, it doesn't matter what the director's intentions are.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe says it's separate, the directors say they're separate, and Sony's been building a completely different Multiverse via it's weird movies

Leaks and interviews say they're not separate, in fact, leaks say the MCU is going to reverse-import the setup of the Spider-Verse.

 

[sasuke431]

The Marvel Cinematic Universe says it's separate, the directors say they're separate, and Sony's been building a completely different Multiverse via it's weird movies

Feige has already met with Phil Lord.