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Why doesn't the ETSB scale to Kaguya's normal stats?

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Jasonsith said:
So how strong are Naruto Uzumaki (Part II), Sasuke Uchiha (Part II) and Sakura Haruno, who sealed Kaguya Ōtsutsuki?
Or, is the Kaguya lady only able to reach this AP with this move and only this move yields this amount of energy and could not be translated into any other attack?

Like Donald Trump can be City Level with a nuclear bomb but is a regular human otherwise (who is the United States President)?
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Sakura definitely doesn't scale in any way.

The rest of the characters you've listed scale to 5-C+ for now.
 
@JohnHendrix212; it may be that Naruto needs to be 5-C and not 5-C+. I just went off of a quick check of the profile.
 
I'm sure this'll be gone over in the AP revisions, but why do some characters not have higher tiers via upscaling from ratings like 7-A+ or 5-C+?
 
LordTracer said:
I'm sure this'll be gone over in the AP revisions, but why do some characters not have higher tiers via upscaling from ratings like 7-A+ or 5-C+?
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I'm sure this will also be discussed during the revisions, though I already know the 7-A rating will be replaced anyway. But if the 5-C+ rating sticks, perhaps some characters should be upscaled, who knows.
 
@Damage; btw just out of curiosity. I know most of the calcs were redone or modified in some way but I haven't seen anything new related to the God tiers. Are their calcs going to remain unchanged?
 
I don't know of any new proposed calcs to the best of my knowledge, but maybe there'll be something when the revision threads are created.
 
Solar System Level Naruto O_O

Sakura can punch Kaguya though, doesn't that make her like 5-C at the very least XD
 
Well, New Era Sakura did do more damage to Shin than Sasuke's Fireball did.
 
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Now that I think about it, if this gets accepted, this would crank Ten Tails Madara to 4-B (or probably 4-C at the very least). Wouldn't this also buff Juubito? The insane power difference between High 6-A and 4-B just doesn't make much sense considering they both have Ten Tails.

Also, 4-C Might Guy :D
 
It shouldn't be accepted. This has been discussed several times over the years and rejected.
 
The "discussed and rejected so many times" argument doesn't make much sense to me. Look at how many times FTL (or heck, Relativistic) Naruto has been discussed over the years, it gets rejected over and over and over again, but yet it's now accepted.
 
@Padaruyos; not a comparable situation. New evidence and new calcs came up for the Naruto speed revisions.
 
Padaruyos said:
The "discussed and rejected so many times" argument doesn't make much sense to me. Look at how many times FTL (or heck, Relativistic) Naruto has been discussed over the years, it gets rejected over and over and over again, but yet it's now accepted.
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Wasn't it accepted because of new evidence?
 
Nehz XZX said:
Padaruyos said:
The "discussed and rejected so many times" argument doesn't make much sense to me. Look at how many times FTL (or heck, Relativistic) Naruto has been discussed over the years, it gets rejected over and over and over again, but yet it's now accepted.
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Wasn't it accepted because of new evidence?
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Wait, now that I think of it, isn't there a thread somewhere discussing 4-B Momoshiki for causing a supernova? If it's accepted then it's a good supporting feat for Kaguya since they are comparable in power. Or is that feat non-canon?
 
Damage3245 said:
It shouldn't be accepted. This has been discussed several times over the years and rejected.
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We can agree to disagree of course, but many people, myself included, feel like the evidence used to "debunk" Kaguya being scaled to her ETSB is pretty weak and doesn't make much sense. Anyway here's to hoping someday some kind of solution that pleases everyone pops up.
 
@Padaruyos; seems like it's been deemed non-canon for now. It's still an active thread tho so who knows lol
 
Metalija said:
People use an argument that ETSB doesn't scale to Kaguya becouse she "needed" to absorb the chakra from shinobi alliance to use ETSB. The problem with that is that shinobi alliance isn't even a fraction of Kaguyas chakra. Naruto with half of Kurama was able to massively power up 20000 shinobi and he still had a ton of chakra left. So Kaguya should scale. Even if you say that her normal attacks are 1000 times weaker she would still be star level lol.
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@Nehz XZX; this among other things. There's also a lot of evidence that she created her dimensions. In addition to the chakra control concept, and the fact that we scale most characters to their attacks.

We scale Naruto to his rasengans and BijuDamas, we scale Rinnegan users to their CT, ETC ETC....
 
If the amount of chakra that Kaguya absorbed isn't actually a significantly large amount for her, then that doesn't actually justify a separate rating for ETSB. Are there other arguments for the ETSB rating to be separate?
 
Nehz XZX said:
If the amount of chakra that Kaguya absorbed isn't actually a significantly large amount for her, then that doesn't actually justify a separate rating for ETSB. Are there other arguments for the ETSB rating to be separate?
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It mostly boils down to "OUTLIER LOL"
 
It mostly boils down to "OUTLIER LOL"

If it was an outlier, the feat wouldn't actually belong on the profile.
 
I don't see how it would be an outlier tbh, when it only scales to the God Tiers.
 
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