Why doesn't DOOM have infinite speed?

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The Seraphim is a Seraph and one of Father's favorite which should make him comparable to or even superior to other Seraphs. The Seraphs are beings who could wing through creation. This is currently accepted as Supersonic+ but I think that's iffy, and that we don't have enough evidence for it.

On the other hand, Infinite speed would make sense as DOOM has infinite timelines expanding exponentially like Fractal patterns, and universes of infinite size. This should give Samur Maykr and all other beings that scale to him like Davoth and Doomguy infinite speed.


Agree: 3

Agree(likely): 1

 

[Firestorm808]

I can't say I follow your reasoning for infinite speed.

 

[Transcending]

I can't say I follow your reasoning for infinite speed.

That Samur Maykr winged through infinite distance.

 

[Axxtentacle]

You mean the Seraphs being able to fly around creation, yeah? Before they were stripped of their wings? They're stated to have been stripped of their wings at some point. They can't do that anymore. Which is why Urdak has these portals that allow the maykrs (which seraphs fall under) to travel around. Unless you're arguing that beings like the Primevals should have speed above those Seraphs?

 

[Transcending]

You mean the Seraphs being able to fly around creation, yeah? Before they were stripped of their wings? They're stated to have been stripped of their wings at some point. They can't do that anymore. Which is why Urdak has these portals that allow the maykrs (which seraphs fall under) to travel around. Unless you're arguing that beings like the Primevals should have speed above those Seraphs?

Samur got back his wings in his fight against Doomguy and was scaled to the winging through creation feat I posted. This is already accepted by the wiki.

Also glad to have you back

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Even then, you can go to point A to point B inside a Infinite realm without the need of Infinite speed

 

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Even then, you can go to point A to point B inside a Infinite realm without the need of Infinite speed

They winged through creation meaning they went through the entirety of it. Winging through the entirety of an infinite realm requires infinite speed.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

They winged through creation meaning they went through the entirety of it. Winging through the entirety of an infinite realm requires infinite speed.

Why would such a statement mean that ? It sounds very non specific for we assume they crossed it from top to bottom, "flying through creation" can very well mean about travelling on it, instead of crossing it in its full size

I wouldn't be against a Possibly or Likely, however

 

[Transcending]

Why would such a statement mean that ? It sounds very non specific for we assume they crossed it from top to bottom, flying through creation can very well mean about travelling on it, instead of crossing it in its full size

The thing is they didn't say the Seraphs winged through a part of creation, they said outright that they winged through creation.

Plus I am pretty sure the wiki considers them to have winged though the entirety of creation, as since if they only winged through a part of it, the Supersonic+ scaling wouldn't really have any basis.

I wouldn't be against a Possibly or Likely,

Better than nothing ig.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

The thing is they didn't say the Seraphs winged through a part of creation, they said outright that they winged through creation.

That supports the idea yes, I rather keep at Possibly or Likely just because the statement isn't 100% clear

To quote an example that I am familiar with, Devil May Cry's Rippers are stated to "be able to cross the Underworld" in like a day or something, with that dimension being Infinite size, it is more specific on bypassing the dimension's full size through speed, which is implied here but not fully stated

The Supersonic+ doesn't have any basis in both cases, if we only considered it to be non infinite, then Supersonic+ is arbitrary right ? Without a timeframe I dunno how we reached that value. I think this rating came from something else, maybe they are scaled to some gun ?

 

[Transcending]

That supports the idea yes, I rather keep at Possibly or Likely just

I prefer a full infinite speed but I am fine with likely too.

The Supersonic+ doesn't have any basis in both cases, if we only considered to be non infinite, then Supersonic+ is arbitrary. I think this rating came from something else, maybe they are scaled to some gun ?

This thread sheds some light on the reasoning:

https://vsbattles.com/threads/some-god-of-war-and-doom-questions.136996/post-4784264

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I prefer a full infinite speed but I am fine with likely too.

Well, that's great, but wait for a few others, let's see what they have to say

This thread sheds some light on the reasoning:

https://vsbattles.com/threads/some-god-of-war-and-doom-questions.136996/post-4784264

Thanks, and yeah, like she said herself, not a good excuse, if this feat isn't taken as Infinite or Likely Infinite, then it should be Unknown, Supersonic+ is very arbitrary

 

[Axxtentacle]

Samur got back his wings in his fight against Doomguy and was scaled to the winging through creation feat I posted. This is already accepted by the wiki.

Also glad to have you back

Well, if that's the case, I honestly don't see the problem with this.

Just for a heads up, I wasn't actually there when Gews did the whole rewrite for that page where it says that. But if it's the case, then yeah. I'm down.

They flew between and through space-time continuums that also happen to be infinitely sized physically. Assuming we take the infinite sized universe thing as legit, but either way they flew between and through universal space-times.

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

You know what? Sure, I think this is okay. At the absolute worst, this is possibly Infinite speed.

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

Makes him less of a pathetic 2-A.

 

[Divini]

idk the verse but infinite speed looks good to me

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm iffy about "Traveling through all creation" being treated as a speed feat as opposed to a Dimensional Travel feat.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Well, they only had it via their wings. I'm not sure having physical appendages that allow you to fly should be taken as Dimensional Travel.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Agree with DDM

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah I'm not seeing hard evidence for infinite speed.

Makes him less of a pathetic 2-A.

You can be 1-A and get outlifted by Spider-Man and be slower than Michael Myers. Speed and Attack Power don't need to relate to each other.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Yeah I'm not seeing hard evidence for infinite speed.

Ok.

You can be 1-A and get outlifted by Spider-Man and be slower than Michael Myers. Speed and Attack Power don't need to relate to each other.

You get he wasn't using that as an actual point, yeah? He's just a weak 2-A as is. That's all Gews said.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Can we just close this thread? None of the actual supporters were ready to talk about this, it's a dead thread, literally nothing is happening here. Can we just hold this off for another day?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Will close this based on request