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DarkLK, Azathoth, and Ovy7 are the most knowledgeable members, and it has taken many years with long discussions to get the tiers properly researched. We cannot have some members that barely know the series try to rush a downgrade just because they feel like it, with nobody competent enough to even properly apply it." A shoddy half assed poorly downgrade" that nobody can contradict, Ultima is knowlowedge member and Yuri too. Why i should not disrgrad a wank that nobody can prove it? For all sake you litteraly accept "doens't have en ending point" as being enough for a jump from 1-A to tier 0
Does Ovy7 want to participate tho?Okay. It is very important that you, @Ultima_Reality, and @Ovy7 collaborate to properly apply the new revision though. It cannot be a rushed half-measure.
Given for how very long I had to wait for Umineko to get in proper order (several years), and given how thorough the previous revision was, I was worried about that this would turn into a poorly executed rush-job without any of you three here to properly direct it.Does Ovy7 want to participate tho?
Besides, Idk why some people started acting as if most things weren't already mostly accepted.
Everyone agreed on Creators, Ultima is neutral on tiering (but not really against it), and the main points that needed discussions were how to treat "Third Domain" and if the concepts witches were linked to had to be linked to their persona or waranted their own key.
If anything, closing the thread was the most rushed thing there; given how Ultima didn't get to say a word between the idea of closing it and the actual closure.
Well, they would at least go up to the City of Book.I think them drawing power from concepts or whatever is fine, but I disagree with the assumption that said concepts somehow encompass the entire ladder by default
@Ovy7 @Ultima_RealityWell, I kind of understand your worry on that part, although the accepted parts could have been applied still.
Anyway, to summarise how the thread was left since last time:
-Creators stuff is an unanimous agreement (there's some neutrals, but no actual disagreement)
-Most people agree with the tiering part, with Ultima being neutral but not especially against it
-How do we treat "Third Domain" is still up to debate.
-Witches drawing power from concepts, being said concepts or having some in-between link between them is still up to debate. There's no real bad arguments on both sides as far as I saw, but it's not like two answers can work here.
Don't hesitate to correct me if I forgot anything.
@Promestein @Elizhaa @UdlmasterWell, I kind of understand your worry on that part, although the accepted parts could have been applied still.
Anyway, to summarise how the thread was left since last time:
-Creators stuff is an unanimous agreement (there's some neutrals, but no actual disagreement)
-Most people agree with the tiering part, with Ultima being neutral but not especially against it
-How do we treat "Third Domain" is still up to debate.
-Witches drawing power from concepts, being said concepts or having some in-between link between them is still up to debate. There's no real bad arguments on both sides as far as I saw, but it's not like two answers can work here.
Don't hesitate to correct me if I forgot anything.
Agree with what?AGREE
everything that the op said like i always doAgree with what?
since it's a bit late for me and I'm sleepy, it's hard to follow
So.
It happens that Ultima and I both kinda prefer this thread with an actual conclusion, so we're re-opening it.
Basically just going to continue the debates stuff rather than stopping at whatever this forced closure was.
Les gooooooooSo.
It happens that Ultima and I both kinda prefer this thread with an actual conclusion, so we're re-opening it.
Basically just going to continue the debates stuff rather than stopping at whatever this forced closure was.
Then the thread would have been closed a while ago tbh. There are more disagreeing votes than agreeing ones. I think he himself even said that it needs discussion, not just random "I agree" or "I disagree" comments.Yuri should have made an agree/disagree list tbh
Well imo keeping track of them could have been beneficial still, but yes that's a valid pointThen the thread would have been closed a while ago tbh. There are more disagreeing votes than agreeing ones. I think he himself even said that it needs discussion, not just random "I agree" or "I disagree" comments.
I do think that having the agree to disagree vote count thing would definitely make it easier to count stuff and just organizes things a little better. But it should be fine regardless. As long as the thread doesn't just get closed randomlyWell imo keeping track of them could have been beneficial still, but yes that's a valid point
It obviously won't become a storm just because it reopened. Ultima still has ongoing threads as well.Why is this thread still so dead?
Oh, nvm then.Although if someone want to discuss Creators or tiering they should start it themselves, since as far as it goes, Ultima and I really just disagree on a little Third Domain issue and witches concepts thing, with the latter likely not being too far of its end once I check some stuff.
How about the universe CRT you did? Are you not going to work on that also?As a side note, I'm not "really" back. Like, I'm just finishing this thread, and I'll occasionally give a small opinion on threads or answers Q&A n stuff to help dudes.
Mainly here because some headcanons are used outside vs debatting with this wiki as source and this world is way too small to just ignore those with another opinion.
Eeeeh, I could and it would surely improve the quality of the standards.How about the universe CRT you did? Are you not going to work on that also?
What universe crt?How about the universe CRT you did? Are you not going to work on that also?
Okay, I understand but I was looking forward it.Eeeeh, I could and it would surely improve the quality of the standards.
But then a lot of people either misunderstood the thread, or ended up discussing unrelated ideas which were as far as possible from the main goal (there was like, only one clear agreement and disagreement) so it would mean making another one? Not like thr standards will ever be perfect so idk.