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Nope, Ant, everything, still disagree along with Ultima (the later on some points).None but ultima only disagree with some point that are not the important one in term of tier, Ovy and everything had disagree in the beginning before most of argument.
I don't understand why we should wait for a thing that nobody can contradict, if ciconia phase two apport more thing for a higher tier then you can make a new upgrade crt.This is why we should've waited for ciconia phase two, to see what new material it brings to come to a more conclusive tiering rather than abruptly downgrading it.
Yes, especially as Yuri is no longer here to make a revision work properly. We should preferably postpone a drastic revision i.m.h.o.This is why we should've waited for ciconia phase two, to see what new material it brings to come to a more conclusive tiering rather than abruptly downgrading it.
Ant litteraly tell he doesn't have read praticaly anything. So sorry but i will not count himNope, Ant, everything, still disagree along with Ultima (the later on done points).
Zencha, The real Cal Howard, Infinity shun, Azatoth the abyssal idiot, etc...... many of them didn't reply on the thread, so no, you are wrong there buddyThis verse does have problems but there are no supporters to allow it
It's not about waiting for it, it's about WTC /07th needing the specific requirements to reach higher than 1-A. Ciconia phase two is supposed to introduce witches, voyagers, and other cosmological elements, and given how huge the WTC series is, we should at least have a concise interpretation of the entire cosmology through all of the series.I don't understand why we should wait for a thing that nobody can contradict, if ciconia phase two apport more thing for a higher tier then you can make a new upgrade crt.
This seem to be pretty biased to me
Yuri have tell that darkseid can answer for the thing so why?Yes, especially as Yuri is no longer here to make a revision work properly. We should preferably postpone a drastic revision i.m.h.o.
He didn't even made a single comment after the downgraders took part in this thread.Everything just disagree in the beginning before most argument was made, and Ultima don't have contradict the argument of Yuri and darkseid for the downgrade of tier.
Strongly agreed.It's not about waiting for it, it's about WTC /07th needing the specific requirements to reach higher than 1-A. Ciconia phase two is supposed to introduce witches, voyagers, and other cosmological elements, and given how huge the WTC series is, we should at least have a concise interpretation of the entire cosmology through all of the series.
We should wait instead of wasting our time making an upgrade thread that would took weeks of work.Yuri have tell that darkseid can answer for the thing so why?
It's biased because it's the only verse i see here where we do that?It's not about waiting for it, it's about WTC /07th needing the specific requirements to reach higher than 1-A. Ciconia phase two is supposed to introduce witches, voyagers, and other cosmological elements, and given how huge the WTC series is, we should at least have a concise interpretation of the entire cosmology through all of the series.
And what exactly is biased?
No, we should close, becouse here most supporters didn't even bother to comment, and people like Ovy probably have some more counter arguments.It's biased because it's the only verse i see here where we do that?
Not accepting a downgrade because someone is not here even tho the main point can't be contradicted, or just asking to wait for a new part of the series to come when it will take month.
We can just continue the downgrade and make an upgrade if ciconia give new thing like we do for litteraly all other verse
Doing this to prevent the downgrade is kinda lame tbhNo, we should close, becouse here most supporters didn't even bother to comment, and people like Ovy probably have some more counter arguments.
This is not being biased, is the most logical thing to do.
So if they never comment the verse will never have a crt ? I don't see how it's not biased when it happen to like every not mainstream verse.No, we should close, becouse here most supporters didn't even bother to comment, and people like Ovy probably have some more counter arguments.
This is not being biased, is the most logical thing to do.
I'm not eager for that, but i'm not okay to delay just because people want us to wait for someone that don't want to participate on the crt.Bruh. We aren't waiting for Ciconia. It can take X time to come out, and it's a bad thing to do in general.
Let's just wait for what Ultima has to say and see from that point.
I don't know why both sides are so eager to finish it. We need to be accurate, not hasty.
An upgrade thread will be a pain in the ass, It will took weeks of work.So if they never comment the verse will never have a crt ? I don't see how it's not biased when it happen to like every not mainstream verse.
The thread creator have done most of the argument and the only that have do débat with him had no problem with the main point.This is a very important and extremely complicated series. We cannot perform a rushed, shoddy, and very imperfect revision without proper reasoning when the thread creator has quit, our most knowledgeable members refuse to participate, and information will be released soon. My apologies, but I am very unlikely to budge regarding this view.
Yes, and I definitely don't have the time to continue to repeat myself here for several hours more. I have other important wiki work to do. We cannot properly perform this revision, and it is likely to be overturned when new information is released. You can restart it later if the new material confirms the claims in this thread.An upgrade thread will be a pain in the ass, It will took weeks of work.
That's why it's better to wait, and see if new evidence is provided.
If half of the verse supporters didn't even comment here, we can't just ignore them, some of them could even bring an argument against the downgrade, Ignoring them it's just unfair.
Strongly agreed, and again, I have very limited time available, so we should do so very soon.You guys are gonna hate me for this, but as Ant said, it's better to close It
It's not us who ignore them but them who ignore the crt or doesn't want to respond in the crt.An upgrade thread will be a pain in the ass, It will took weeks of work.
That's why it's better to wait, and see if new evidence is provided.
If half of the verse supporters didn't even comment here, we can't just ignore them, some of them could even bring an argument against the downgrade, Ignoring them it's just unfair.
I may make some people angry, but it's better if you close this now. There are some potential mods out there, like Promestein, and Cal Howard,etc... Who are verse supporters and It would be good if we see their arguments in the Next CRT.Strongly agreed, and again, I have very limited time available, so we should do so very soon.
" A shoddy half assed poorly downgrade" that nobody can contradict, Ultima is knowlowedge member and Yuri too. Why i should not disrgrad a wank that nobody can prove it? For all sake you litteraly accept "doens't have en ending point" as being enough for a jump from 1-A to tier 0You disregard that there was enormously more work performed to work out the current tiers. A shoddy half-assed poorly executed downgrade for the sake of downgrade revision without any knowledgeable members involved is completely unacceptable for such an important series.
Yes, this is being tremendously rushed to be executed in a sloppy manner, which is completely unacceptable given how extreme amounts of work that went into researching the cirrent tiers.I may make some people angry, but it's better if you close this now. There are some potential mods out there, like Promestein, and Cal Howard,etc... Who are verse supporters and It would be good if we see their arguments in the Next CRT.
This thread will take us forever, I just don't find a thread with more than a half of it's verse supporters to work properly, people only want to rush, which I don't agree with.
Both of the arguments are not valid in any way to close it though.I may make some people angry, but it's better if you close this now. There are some potential mods out there, like Promestein, and Cal Howard,etc... Who are verse supporters and It would be good if we see their arguments in the Next CRT.
This thread will take us forever, I just don't find a thread with more than a half of it's verse supporters to work properly, people only want to rush, which I don't agree with.
This is such a bad argument, no offense. Cal has already left the wiki, and you can go ahead and just tell the supporters to come here. If they don't want to, then that's it. Just because some of them don't want to comment here doesn't mean we'll have to stop this thread. WTC can literally just never have any revisions because "muh supporters don't come".I may make some people angry, but it's better if you close this now. There are some potential mods out there, like Promestein, and Cal Howard,etc... Who are verse supporters and It would be good if we see their arguments in the Next CRT.
This thread will take us forever, I just don't find a thread with more than a half of it's verse supporters to work properly, people only want to rush, which I don't agree with.
People will kill me, but I think I better to just close It. It Will be better becouse we could try to Contact more mods who are well verses on Umineko, and more members.Yes, this is being tremendously rushed to be executed in a sloppy manner, which is completely unacceptable given how extreme amounts of work that went into researching the cirrent tiers.