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What tiers do you personally oppose?
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Don't we do that already
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Like..?
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Give examples and elaborate
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Okay, not sure if i understand you correctly but i think the "I'm beyond everything" bullshit isn't valid
Solid mathematics is better to be more powerful
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Actually there is, the problem that is they stop the math and start the bullshit after high 1B
1A isn't special at all but people make it seem to be
Thank god Digimon isn't like this
Hasty12345
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Not every verse mentions set theory to be specific enough to use "strictly math", it's not a feasible method of tiering IMO
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It's the author's fault
They think metaphysical omnipotent omnilock omnishit omnicock trash transcending balls sounds cool more than "character X transcends centors infinities"
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you don't need to explicitly mention set theory, but even though the descriptions for the outerversal tiers actually say math stuff, 99% of outerversal verses don't actually fit the tier
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Transcending the hierarchy of high 1B is enough even if it's not math based
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1-A | Outerverse level: Characters who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy realms or states that fully transcend infinitely-layered hierarchies and/or dimensional levels on a conceptual or existential level, normally being portrayed as entirely external abstractions that lie outside of the applications of spatiotemporal dimensionality as a constant defined by physics on any level, even compared to infinite or uncountably infinite dimensions, usually by perceiving them as akin to fiction or something similarly insignificant.
However, do note that a character can qualify for this rating even if their verse does not have an infinitely-layered or equivalent cosmology, as long as it is either stated, shown or left very obvious that the character in question already bypasses the very nature of such structures altogether, in a way that simply "stacking" more of them logically would not allow one to reach their level of power / size.[3]"
I mean, I'm not the most versed on 1-A verses, but this doesn't seem too complicated. I'd guess your problem is more wanked interpretations?
1-A | Outerverse level: Characters who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy realms or states that fully transcend infinitely-layered hierarchies and/or dimensional levels on a conceptual or existential level, normally being portrayed as entirely external abstractions that lie outside of the applications of spatiotemporal dimensionality as a constant defined by physics on any level, even compared to infinite or uncountably infinite dimensions, usually by perceiving them as akin to fiction or something similarly insignificant.
However, do note that a character can qualify for this rating even if their verse does not have an infinitely-layered or equivalent cosmology, as long as it is either stated, shown or left very obvious that the character in question already bypasses the very nature of such structures altogether, in a way that simply "stacking" more of them logically would not allow one to reach their level of power / size.[3]"
I mean, I'm not the most versed on 1-A verses, but this doesn't seem too complicated. I'd guess your problem is more wanked interpretations?
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i said strictly speaking from a mathematical perspective as cardinals are far far more complicated and larger than what you may think, though yes wanked interpretations are also another thing i hate as lots and lots of people like to say things like "platonic is outer, concept of time is outer, being beyond space and time is outer, beyond dimensions is outer" without any context and me having to explain things to those kinds of people is kinda a pain
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Being beyond all expansions of a dimensional hierarchy (we accept it as low 1A/aleph one) would make you aleph two (1A)
True, it needs strong context, it needs well structured cosmologies, just saying that there's verses who fairly surpass aleph 1
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******* true, especially those discord and tiktok *******
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Yeah, some verses fits it, just not the wanked ones like ahem, ahem, DC
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I stopped debating because of these
DC have mathematical dimensions that are comfortably into tier 1
But after that, here comes the bullshit
i sleep well knowing Digimon has a better cosmology than DC
Randomlamdom
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Some puella magi characters might get upgraded to 6-c from 7-b and 7-a which i disagree with
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On tiktok everyone is outer
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your dad isn't real
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That was Yuri. Umy just supported the CRT. Not sure if he'll try downgrading it again.
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My Dad
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Darksmash and Umy are basically the same dude.
Hasty12345
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"basically"
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Well astronomical feats for weak Digimon such as digitamamon creating an entire dimension with countless stars is obviously an outlier
But i think there's enough feats to put Ultimates at 6B-6A
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