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Yes he have, Kwon Shi-yu cast it once when they were at schoolDeathNoodles said:Does Han have any feats/evidence of resisting or nullifying Time Stop?
Give me feats or evidence of Han's nullification working on something as powerful as Time Stop (and I don't mean just stuff like Time Acceleration that Han seems to only possess for his main arsenal), or else that would be considered as NLF and thus not valid in a debate. Claiming that something can affect all categories of something, especially without any feats or evidence to showcase such, tends to all under the NLF category.Ricsi-viragosi said:Second things second, magic manipulating and even buying time does exist, and Gaia claims that all magic is nullified, so time stop wouldn't work either, not under his best power null.
Thirdly, han's time dilatation means that he'd have seven months to train, so he would be immensly faster, amongs other things.
As much as Ainz would win in a direct confrontation, Han would have tens of thousands of golems by then, be fast enough to blitz and could null magic after ainz decimates some of his golwms.
It is thought-based if Ainz decides to combine it with Silent Magic. Pretty much all of Ainz's spells are thought-based if he decides to "silently cast" them.Litentric Teon said:Grasp heart isn't thought based? What does it require?
Ainz's Delay Teleportation kinda... Counters that. The part where Han can teleport himself.Ricsi-viragosi said:...having teleportation. And being able to teleport the both of them into a pocket dimension of his.
You know Ainz's Wish Upon A Star (especially when he decides to use it with Shooting Star)? Well, apparently it doesn't use any MP (Mana Points, which I'm pretty sure that's what mana are in an MMO-like world such as Overlord anyways), and is apparently closer to a skill than a magic spell. So even if Hans tries to nullify Ainz's magic via depriving mana, I'm pretty sure that won't stop Ainz from using Wish Upon A Star on him.Ricsi-viragosi said:... Again, Ainz cannot use anything that relies on mana if he gets it off. It doesn't matter what kind of car you have if you can't use it's fuel, unless the car doesn't need ut, which is true here too. His death hax does use mana.
Some of Ainz's instant death abilities are higher-tier spells... I don't see why it shouldn't scale by spell tiers alone. It's not like I'm trying to scale their range to Ainz's Greater Teleportation or anything. Also, Ainz being the highest ranked undead, can see through Invisibility (if that's not enough, he even has an ability called Arcane Vision/See Invisibility)... I'm pretty sure he can still see Hans if anything, unless Hans has some other abilities (that I'm not aware of) which are more than just invisibility.Ricsi-viragosi said:When has he even shown that amount of range with deat manip? Let alone focusing it on one character that he can't even see.
Can you not understand the no mana thing? It is getting repetitive. But yes, it nullified the seeker of truth's magic, including sorcerer's realm.
He states to be above yoohwa shin, who can mentally connect and brainwash 500,000 and believes to be able to do so to the whole world if given the chance.
He would know with, amongst other things, light speed attacks not doing anything to Ainz, him resisting divination and him being ready to use his powers in the real world, all three of which would make him think that ainz is part of the celestials. And not only has he not used the star in that way, that wouldn't really get him the win, since Han can hide himself from magical detection too, and the fact that ainz cannot attck during time stop, only delay magic to after it.
And the explosion came out at High 6-C with 164.053090058 gigatons.
Again, unquantifiable amplication as the exact growth of Hans development is unknown. If we can't exactly estimate about how powerful a character gets, then it's not really valid to use in debates (I'm pretty sure this is how even the capabilities of Reactive Evolution characters are judged anyways, based on the evidence of how powerful they grow to be later). With speed equalised, I don't even know how much of a speed amp Hans would get. Does X30 mean that he gets 30 times his usual speed with Time Dilation?Ricsi-viragosi said:His time acceleration is tough based, but he starts faster because of his accelerated development.
That is what he could use after powernull.
Yeah, but Ainz resisting that stuff would be what made Han think that he's one of the top 1000, who he knows are superior to him. And the abyss is the supernatural world, mostly, and has several people that specify in getting knowledge, they would fails in thia case tough.
And my train arrived, so I'll leave the rest to litentric for now.
We still don't know the direct number, which you have admitted. Trying to estimate Han' growth outside of feats or reliable statements would involve speculation than anything else, thus it should not be valid to use in a debate. Hans would only get stronger by an unquantifiable amount really (and we know how unreliable a character's abilities are when they have the word "unquantifiable" in it).Ricsi-viragosi said:I mean, it is aplicable even if not with a direct number. He went from a normal human to his current self in two years, but he wasn't even abusing his time dilatation that much through it.
By having a 30 times speed amp and a 5 times tough speed amp on top of that. And with powernull, and by sending his golems while he just stays back and hides. And none of his magic works in time stop, Ainz simply delays them to after it, so they would still get nulled once time stop stops.
Han's magic null are all spells/magic, correct? Also, Ainz could simply just put that minion at a great enough distance to use its existence erasure on Han before it gets blitzed by the 30+ speed amp. And with prep, Ainz could likely have some ways to hide it from Hans view once the fight starts. Silent Time Stop could help tell Ainz where Han is before he decides to command the minion to erase Han. It's not like Han has much of a reliable way to gain information about Ainz or the minion when most of what Ainz does in prep is to counter observation, clairvoyance, and divination while he prepares stuff.Ricsi-viragosi said:The same that stops Han from putting up magic null at the battle before it even starts. And the fact that longinus wouldn't work in time stop, and would be blitzed without it.
And I litirally gave you the feat of his increase over an year. He has more than half here, it is very much notable.
He won't be able to get far if han is in rnage. Teleportation is nulled, and he's too slow to hit Han with any non-magic stuff he has. If one of the minions went to him he'd blitz them to oblivion, power steal them in a pocket dimension, and then give a golem longinus.