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Like I said, maybe in the future - we don;t know what will happen or change (low chance for 4-D hax but not impossible). If only Boruto would have been weekly.Warren Valion said:
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What ability in Narutoverse can counter the "Almighty"?
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@Warren
not in the same context
we kinda change Soul crushing to fit more into our wiki's standards
not in the same context
we kinda change Soul crushing to fit more into our wiki's standards
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They need to just be on another level of AP that Yhwach's almighty becomes kinda pointlessWarren Valion said:
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What do you mean by this?Shadowbokunohero said:
If you mean verse equalization, then I mentioned that in my comment.
And I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed in battles anyway.
Darth Nihilus has passive soul and mind hax. That is just as broken, if not more so than Reiatsu crush - and he doesn't have any said abilities not allowed in verses fights.
We don't even restrict higher-dimension or beyond dimensional immortality anymore.
And every Bleach fight thread that I have become a Bleach fan has included it - and has either lead to the fight being a stomp for the Bleach character or the opponent resists and the fight is continued.
Here's an example: Lapis lazuli vs Toshiro Hitsugaya
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it was in regards to verse equalization
prior to that arguments would be made similar to this, and it's a common argument made.
"character A has no spirit energy thus gets crushed regardless of tier"
which is why i said nope to the whole godtier naruto characters get crushed and killed passively
thats not how our wiki functions
prior to that arguments would be made similar to this, and it's a common argument made.
"character A has no spirit energy thus gets crushed regardless of tier"
which is why i said nope to the whole godtier naruto characters get crushed and killed passively
thats not how our wiki functions
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Isn't Chakra a mixture of spiritual energy and physical energy or something like that?Shadowbokunohero said:
I am pretty sure the spiritual aspect of their energy would allow them to resist the effects of Reiatsu crush anyway.
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yes it wasn't a direct comparison to naruto but a generalization
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Soul Crush is just Soul Manipulation weaponized in the form of an Aura, so you just need resistance to Soul Manipulation.
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I see, and yes, verse equalization kind of takes care of that.Shadowbokunohero said:
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Wouldnt speed counter the almighty? Would he be able to see them in the future or would it be just him looking at a blurred object?
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having the almighty would be the worst thing if you are trying to watch or read anything
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I don't really see how speed counters it, unless they're like infinite speed or something.Wrath Of Itachi said:
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Do people in Naruto speed blitz him?Wrath Of Itachi said:
And I am pretty sure this is speed equalized, anyway.
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I was just wondering if someone is like FTL how would he be able to find a future where he is able to react to them.
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Luckily for Yhwach he can turn the ability off, then.Shadowbokunohero said:
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Naruto God tiers are 11x faster. What I'm wondering is if yhwach would be able to react to them with such a speed difference. I'm curious if the almighty can counter speed as well.
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Considering he would know every action they could possibly take and where they would come from speed isn't much of an issue
Unless you're like immeasurable or infinite speed
Unless you're like immeasurable or infinite speed
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Logically, Yhwach can't beat Naruto God Tiers just like he can't logically beat Superman.
There is no future where:
There is no future where:
- He harms them
- Has higher AP
- Is Faster
- Some will say KS was used on him before Almighty was activated, but this is irrelevant as Activating Almighty has legitimate feats of Negating Abilities used on him prior to its activation.
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Meh fan of both here, but
doesn't Yhwach still have the other abilities like getting progressively stronger everytime he's harmed thanks to Thor wannabe Gerard and the ability to warp reality with Gremmy the poor misunderstood sod who lost to Kenpachi?
Also, are those abilities used on Yhwach aimed to his vision? Cause the founding reason why KS worked was I think it tricked his ability to see everything. It would be like in a way... uhh... gonna use a weird example but Aids disease infecting and preventing the perception of said disease before you got some vaccine, unaware of said aids. If it was any other disease it would be detected immediately even if it was already there.
At least, that's the analogy I get
doesn't Yhwach still have the other abilities like getting progressively stronger everytime he's harmed thanks to Thor wannabe Gerard and the ability to warp reality with Gremmy the poor misunderstood sod who lost to Kenpachi?
Also, are those abilities used on Yhwach aimed to his vision? Cause the founding reason why KS worked was I think it tricked his ability to see everything. It would be like in a way... uhh... gonna use a weird example but Aids disease infecting and preventing the perception of said disease before you got some vaccine, unaware of said aids. If it was any other disease it would be detected immediately even if it was already there.
At least, that's the analogy I get
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No, he negated his strength being negated by Ichibe after he activated the Almighty. Not that activating The Almighty instantly negates all ailment upon him.TheFinalOrder said:
He specifically says, "Everything that I see... is powerless before me"
He never knew, nor "saw" that he was having his perceptions distorted until after Aizen revealed it.
That's why he didn't negate it.
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Wow I can't even so yhwach has a bunch of hax that bypass durability so that's not an issue even if they kill him he can res and speed isn't an issue when he has precog on that levelTheFinalOrder said:
And yes ks being used before the almighty was on is specifically stated to be the only reason it worked in addition it also only worked because of the fact that KS also makes it nigh impossible to tell if it's activated in you
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That was pretty funny kek
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Tbh I'd actually think a character can kill him if he's faster.... if he doesn't have Gerard's haxx.
The bullshit haxx that wasn't ever defeated properly either.
The bullshit haxx that wasn't ever defeated properly either.
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This thread seems pretty much answered, as long as he has The Almighty up nothing they have can really do anything to him.
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Honestly sakura solos with ease.
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Can he see Genjutsu? Nope. Don't get your point here?Warren Valion said:
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You notice how your argument shiftd from the Almighty to his other abilities? Don't you think that answers the OP?Dziga said:
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Yhwach doesnt use any of his other abilities in character.
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Genjutsu being above Almighty is pretty funny xD
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This thread should probably be closed. It will probably turn into a typical Naruto vs Bleach thread, and those never turn out good.
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He can see them using genjutsu in the future and negate it - not that he sees the attack.TheFinalOrder said:
Aizen used mind hax in the past, before he unlocked his Almighty, and he couldn't tell that what he was seeing in the future wasn't real, and therefore he didn't negate it.
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Genjutsu isn't Physical. Yhwach can't see it. All he would see is a Genjutsu User standing there or whatever illusions he's being manipulated to see already. Thus he cannot "Know it" and thus "Negate it".Warren Valion said:
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Neither is most of the Sternritter's hax, does that mean that As Nodt can defeat Yhwach? He doesn't need to physically see the ability to nullify it.TheFinalOrder said:
You are forgetting that The Almighty has information analysis as well. It tells him what the ability is.
The Almighty grants Yhwach the ability to know about everything he sees, for all powers he sees to take his side, to be immune to all powers he knows and not able to be defeated by such powers.
Just seeing a genjutsu user do a genjutsu ability will allow Yhwach to "know" what the ability is, and thus the ability "takes his side".
If he is already under genjutsu before he activates The Almighty, then The Almighty's vision is clouded to the point where he doesn't see that he is under a genjutsu.
But if it is casted after he activates The Almighty, then he has already seen it, he knows it, he gains a resistance to it, and he nulls it.
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