What ability in Narutoverse can counter the "Almighty"?

[AppleLord]

I need an answer for a discussion.

Almighty (Õà¿þƒÑÕà¿Þ⢠(Òé©Òâ╗Òé¬Òâ╝Òâ½Òâ×ÒéñÒâåÒéú), Ji Ōrumaiti; Japanese for "All-Knowing"):

Omni-Precognition: Yhwach can see everything that is to occur from the present moment into the far-flung future. He can "know" everything that lies within that gaze. Rather than seeing a linear future, Yhwach observes all possible futures at once like countless grains of sand in the wind, and can thus act accordingly using the knowledge he has gained to anticipate and counter his opponents. However, Yhwach is unable to predict the actions of Mimihagi, the right hand of the Soul King.

Future Modification: Yhwach states that the true power of The Almighty is the ability to transform the future. He utilizes this power by setting up traps where he knows his opponents will be and attacking them before they can even begin their own attacks. He can also maneuver around any defense and countermeasure they use to protect themselves in order to facilitate his attacks. He can even revive himself by changing futures where he dies.

Power Intuition: Any power of which he "knows" will become his ally.

Reactionary Power Immunity: That power will not only be unable to defeat him, but become unable to harm him in any way.


"Almighty Eyes"

 

[Dziga]

Talk no Jutsu

 

[Zaratthustra]

Idk, maybe Izanami/Izanagi/Kotoamatsukami/Tsukuyomi or Expansive Truth Seeking Ball to destroy the planet since Mustache-sama can't breath in space I think.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Izanami for future modification

 

[AppleLord]

Idk, maybe Izanami/Izanagi/Kotoamatsukami/Tsukuyomi or Expansive Truth Seeking Ball to destroy the planet since Mustache-sama can't breath in space I think.

He can't breathe in space but can dimension jump.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Considering he can null any jutsu before it even comes out

Nothing in the verse

 

[Zaratthustra]

Yeah, he can but knowing that if you can use Expansive Truth Seeking Ball, I'm sure dimension travel won't be much to go and destroy all planets till he is left with none but I may be wrong.

 

[Paul_Frank]

He can just null the ball

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Nothing

Izanagi is pointless Yhwach would just simply choose a path where the person didnt cast Izanagi at that moment.

 

[AppleLord]

Genjutsu can affect his omni-precog but not his Future Modification. If only we could block his choices with something.

 

[Paul_Frank]

No genjutsu can't mess with his precog

Kyoka Suigetsu only worked because it was cast before the almighty was turned on

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Yhwach is a walking Gary Stu being only beaten because the plot demanded him to be beaten.

Genjutsu wouldn't work as the Almighty would Nullify it, they would have to cast Genjutsu on him prior to him using the almighty kinda like what Aizen did with KS, however, this wouldn't be truthfully "Countering the Almighty" but more like taking precautionary measures and that would require prep or passive mind screw

 

[AppleLord]

Yhwach is a walking Gary Stu being only beaten because the plot demanded him to be beaten.
Genjutsu wouldn't work as the Almighty would Nullify it, they would have to cast Genjutsu on him prior to him using the almighty kinda like what Aizen did with KS, however, this wouldn't be truthfully "Countering the Almighty" but more like taking precautionary measures and that would require prep or passive mind screw

Assuming they did all of this how can we proceed to stop his future modification ability?

 

[Zaratthustra]

Hmm, what hax do you think would be enough to beat him? (not necessarly from Narutoverse)

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

@Apple Lord

it's been a while since I read the final arc, is his resurrection passive or does he need to think about going to another future if he dies

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

>Nobody mentioned the Reverse Harem Jutsu.

Heresy!!!

 

[Paul_Frank]

We don't know

He just kinda came back

He said he can rewrite futures when he dies so maybe he does it himself

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Hmm, what hax do you think would be enough to beat him? (not necessarly from Narutoverse)

Mindhax

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That works on 4-D scale at least.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Acausality so they are immune to precog

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

only thing I can think of is they have to genjutsu him, don't kill him or give away that it's a genjutsu and seal him with Totsuka Blade, where he will be permanently sealed away in a drunken slumber of dreams for all eternity, he would never escape because he would never think that what he's seeing is an illusion and he won't auto-revive because he won't actually be dead

 

[Zaratthustra]

Yhwach is a walking Gary Stu being only beaten because the plot demanded him to be beaten.
Genjutsu wouldn't work as the Almighty would Nullify it, they would have to cast Genjutsu on him prior to him using the almighty kinda like what Aizen did with KS, however, this wouldn't be truthfully "Countering the Almighty" but more like taking precautionary measures and that would require prep or passive mind screw

Assuming they did all of this how can we proceed to stop his future modification ability?

I've been think that his Future Modification isn't an invicinbile ability that can change any Future. Like how Uryu and Ichigo beat him. There are some future that he can't change because even if he change them, he will still lose. Or How Medaka is the protagonist explained by Ajimu, Fate chose itself that she will always win so she will win but that's may be thanks to her unruly Luck that make the Universe to bend to her. Ps. this may also be the Plot Armor lol

Another way, maybe a really powerful Stop Time/Present Manipulation to make no future that can be modified. To make him stay in a loop that will give him no future. So by no future for him existing then no chance to modify it.

 

[Paul_Frank]

They would have to genjutsu him before he activates it

And tbh the only genjutsu that would work under those circumstances would be kotoamtsukami becausw yhwach would have to not know he's being mindhaxed

Also almost no one in naruto could even use a genjutsu on him even if they can see him they passively die by being near him

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I know thats why we said on the assumption that they manage to cast genjutsu on him prior.

> they passively die by being near him

What

Ichigo was perfectly fine standing near Yhwach

 

[Zaratthustra]

I know thats why we said on the assumption that they manage to cast genjutsu on him prior.
> they passively die by being near him

What

Ichigo was perfectly fine standing near Yhwach

He's talking about Reiatsu Crushing.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Ichigo had relative strength to yhwach and so he wasn't reiatsu crushed or disintegrated

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

yeah no thats not working here

 

[Paul_Frank]

Why would it not

At the very least they would be brought to their knees at the most they disintegrate

 

[Zaratthustra]

Because it's equalization. Also they are not normal humans, those from Narutoverse - they have spiritual energy. And those that have those ability or hax are not your fodder shinobi.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

we don't use soul crush in that context in the wiki or on most VS boards, it completely closes down discussion and is normally suspect to NLF.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Even non fodder in bleach can still be reiatsu crushed

Aizen flexed his reiatsu and brought grimjow to his knees

Aizen got his shackles undone and the persons hand vanished

Yhwach is significantly stronger than Aizen so

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Actually Soul Crush is accepted here now ( See Aura ability on profile).

 

[Zaratthustra]

Even non fodder in bleach can still be reiatsu crushed
Aizen flexed his reiatsu and brought grimjow to his knees

Aizen got his shackles undone and the persons hand vanished

Yhwach is significantly stronger than Aizen so

Yhwach may be stronger but don't forget Aizen is not your secondary character or so. He's the war potential for Reiatsu. And Reiatsu Crush is not used in vs boards.

 

[Paul_Frank]

He's the war potential that doesn't mean he has more reiatsu than yhwach

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Zart

It is very much used just like how we don't assume any random person can see Shinigami and etc "to be fair".

 

[Zaratthustra]

Hmm...dindn't know that it was changed but still it won't work on those that are high tier or god tier of Narutoverse to instantly beat them. I won't say that it's not strong but they are not pushovers. Anyway, like other said there are not many way to get Mustache-sama down.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

the only way to stop Yhwach involves a super over convoluted plan that requires specific characters under specific situations to work together and have prep.

so in conclusion

the answer is still ultimately no.

It's not that Yhwach is super strong or anything like that, it's based on the fact that Yhwach's has a very specific hax that requires a specific ability to counter and if you don't have those things, it's unlikely for you to win

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Zart

Correct, they won't get disintegrated like fodder but they're still vulnerable to the effects if lacking some resistance to soul manipulation.

 

[Warren_Valion]

What, where is this coming from? We do, in fact, use the Reiatsu crush - why wouldn't we?

Through verse equalization, however, those on his level or are stronger than him will be fine.


To answer the question, as others have said, they would have to use genjutsu on Yhwach before he activated The Almighty, as Aizen did with KS.

As soon as he activates the Almighty - the HST dies badly.

And this doesn't count all the abilities that Yhwach should be able to use, but doesn't because he was already too broken with just The Almighty.

 

[Zaratthustra]

At this moment in time, there are not many way to beat him in Narutoverse but maybe in the future there will be. Who know what hax/ability will apear from Kara members / Karma / Otsutsuki members or maybe from the the main cast.

 

[Warren_Valion]

At this moment in time, there are not many way to beat him in Narutoverse but maybe in the future there will be. Who know what hax/ability will apear from Kara members / Karma / Otsutsuki members or maybe from the the main cast.

Unless Naruto gets 4-D hax of some kind, resistance to power null, or Acausality strong enough to null the Almighty's effect - I don't think anything they get will matter.