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[Fallen_Angelicx]

Bump. Additional notes:
Ryuunosuke recently got a upgrade in Hax. His Precognition now allows him to act 2 seconds into the future meaning he has a 2 second headstart ahead of time to oneshot Sans.

Bump

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Goku (DBS) vs Baby (DB GT)

Speed is equalized Both in character Goku start with SSJ1 transformation Goku is injured Baby : Goku : 7 Incon :

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Baby was 3-B and Goku was 3-A or 2-C, the premise was that Baby could corrupt Goku as a win condition

Now both are 2-C and the GT scaling is almost or even superior to Super, the fight is outdated as a result, goku's page is locked and I can't remove it myself

 

[Starter_Pack]

Goku (DBS) vs Baby (DB GT)

Speed is equalized Both in character Goku start with SSJ1 transformation Goku is injured Baby : Goku : 7 Incon :

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Baby was 3-B and Goku was 3-A or 2-C, the premise was that Baby could corrupt Goku as a win condition

Now both are 2-C and the GT scaling is almost or even superior to Super, the fight is outdated as a result, goku's page is locked and I can't remove it myself

Gone.

 

[Elizhaa]

Bump

Yeah
This is counted as a win in Kaguya's profile

Via this thread

Kaguya Vs Isshiki part 2

We already concluded in this thread that war arc Kaguya wins against isshiki I just wanted to count the votes again because i used rounds in the first match up that was the reason it couldnt be added to the profiles so please vote again Kaguya vs Isshiki - both in character Kaguya...

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Problems
1. The thread is over 3 years old. Isshiki now has resistance to Kaguya's IT (one of the wincons provided for Kaguya) and Kaguya has no Regeneration (Moot point since it'll be fixed soon enough)
2. All six votes were made before a single argument for Isshiki was provided. And when pro Isshiki arguments were eventually made, proper refutations weren't provided (Isshiki shrinking ETSO and Ash killing bone etc)
3. There really isn't any narrative support for Kaguya beating Isshiki in a straight fight. She canonically needed to catch him off guard in order to take him out.

This is considered a loss on Gojo's page



Problems
1. Almost no JJK supporter participated, leading to basically no push back and quick votes for Binah.
2. Binah's able to lock Gojo's abilities via cm2 rendering him basically powerless.

I remove the threads.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I remove the threads.

Thank you but the One Being also needs to go

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Kai (Ninjago) vs Wonder Woman (DC Comics) [10-0-0] (GRACE)

Kai vs Wonder Woman (Post Crisis) Rules: Speed is equalized Staff of Elements Kai is used Pre Clayface Absorption Wonder Woman is used Kai is bloodlusted and will use anything he has to win (as the show displays anyways) Wonder Woman has her Lasso and Bracelets Starting Distance: 10m Fight...

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bro

a 4-C character with low-mid hax just beat a 2-C character

And? WW didn't resist his mind hax, which is why she lost. That's litterally just copium on your part

Bump

Aditional note the person who made the lady demon bone match was topic banned yet made the thread anyway.

He wasn't at the time. DB fans even made a spite thread to get revenge

 

[Arcker123]

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [7-2-0] (GRACE)

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen Rules: Speed Equalized Lady Bone Demon only has her base form, so no Mech or Samadhi Aizen can have all keys Fight takes place in a busy city Starting distance: 20m Lady Bone Demon: @Sdjlakjh, @Hellformer, @Lloydblitzed, @AigerTheKing, @TheOrangeGuy09...

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Bone Demon went through multiple revisions mid match and votes were never recounted, nor did the Aizen supporters even get to respond with new arguments when the revisions passed. The OP was told to redo the thread for these exact reasons, but didn't. The match should just be redone and this one should be removed for the time being.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [7-2-0] (GRACE)

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen Rules: Speed Equalized Lady Bone Demon only has her base form, so no Mech or Samadhi Aizen can have all keys Fight takes place in a busy city Starting distance: 20m Lady Bone Demon: @Sdjlakjh, @Hellformer, @Lloydblitzed, @AigerTheKing, @TheOrangeGuy09...

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Bone Demon went through multiple revisions mid match and votes were never recounted, nor did the Aizen supporters even get to respond with new arguments when the revisions passed. The OP was told to redo the thread for these exact reasons, but didn't. The match should just be redone and this one should be removed for the time being.

Not to mention the fact that the match was also being argued to be a stomp in Aizen's favor as well.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [7-2-0] (GRACE)

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen Rules: Speed Equalized Lady Bone Demon only has her base form, so no Mech or Samadhi Aizen can have all keys Fight takes place in a busy city Starting distance: 20m Lady Bone Demon: @Sdjlakjh, @Hellformer, @Lloydblitzed, @AigerTheKing, @TheOrangeGuy09...

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Bone Demon went through multiple revisions mid match and votes were never recounted, nor did the Aizen supporters even get to respond with new arguments when the revisions passed.

Aizen's supporters did respond mid match after Orange's revision. Nobody has any obligation to wait for supporters either when making a match

 

[Arcker123]

Aizen's supporters did respond mid match after Orange's revision. Nobody has any obligation to wait for supporters either when making a match

There were multiple Bleach supporters who were arguing previously who didn't respond. You appealing to debating one guy afterwards doesn't change that.

Previous votes can entirely be re evaluated and even disregarded based on new evidence and arguments (such as in the case of stomps). The fact that didn't happen here makes the whole thing un addable. Nothing here changes the fact the thread absolutely should've been remade, rather than added.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [7-2-0] (GRACE)

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen Rules: Speed Equalized Lady Bone Demon only has her base form, so no Mech or Samadhi Aizen can have all keys Fight takes place in a busy city Starting distance: 20m Lady Bone Demon: @Sdjlakjh, @Hellformer, @Lloydblitzed, @AigerTheKing, @TheOrangeGuy09...

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Bone Demon went through multiple revisions mid match and votes were never recounted, nor did the Aizen supporters even get to respond with new arguments when the revisions passed. The OP was told to redo the thread for these exact reasons, but didn't. The match should just be redone and this one should be removed for the time being.

I believe this makes sense, and I have removed this matchup from both profiles.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

For the record, I agree with removal.

Aizen's supporters did respond mid match after Orange's revision. Nobody has any obligation to wait for supporters either when making a match

This is correct, nor does anyone have to wait for anyone else. No user, not even Ant, has to be waited for to have a thread go on: no thread must wait for another's permission to finish, so long as it does otherwise fulfill the requirements to finish. In this case, that is 7 votes with a clear advantage over the other side of votes, and 48 hours grace period- that latter bit is there to give people time, if they don't show up then that's genuinely on them.

I agree with the removal because votes should be recounted once a profile goes through revisions. But to suggest that a user or group of users must give permission for a versus thread to conclude? Psychotic.

 

[Arcker123]

I never once make the claim that it should be removed in virtue of not responding. My claim is that the votes were based on old arguments that didn't apply, which is proven by a lack of response with new ones.

I don't understand how you can be confident enough call another user psychotic and get something this basic wrong.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I never once make the claim that it should be removed in virtue of not responding. My claim is that the votes were based on old arguments that didn't apply, which is proven by a lack of response with new ones.

I don't understand how you can be confident enough call another user psychotic and get something this basic wrong.

nor did the Aizen supporters even get to respond with new arguments when the revisions passed.

I suppose one might say this was just an irrelevant tidbit stated by you, but it was added as a matter of substance to the report. That said, while I consider this an argument made from madness, my post is to the royal you, not you in particular. It has been a consistent trend in this thread that people suggest this is the way that it is- that supporters must speak before a thread is concluded, when this simply isn't so.

 

[Kachon123]

It has been a consistent trend in this thread that people suggest this is the way that it is- that supporters must speak before a thread is concluded, when this simply isn't so.

While I agree with you that supporters don't need to speak before a thread is concluded, in the context of Arcker's report, newer arguments would have needed to have been brought up based on the revisions so that the recount of votes can take place, presumably by the supporters. The fact that this did not occur made it worth of note for Arcker when addressing the issue.

 

[Arkenis]

Isn't it more healthy for the thread if supporters did speak? Especially after new revisions were put in place?

 

[Arcker123]

The threads removed. Now we can do what shouldve happened, which is make a new thread. Nothing more needs to be done here.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Isn't it more healthy for the thread if supporters did speak? Especially after new revisions were put in place?

That which is preferred is not identical to that which is required.

While I agree with you that supporters don't need to speak before a thread is concluded, in the context of Arcker's report, newer arguments would have needed to have been brought up based on the revisions so that the recount of votes can take place, presumably by the supporters. The fact that this did not occur made it worth of note for Arcker when addressing the issue.

Not necessarily newer arguments- but old votes would have been invalidated, at least, yeah.