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Ok, but my point still stands. The reasons in the threads don't make sense.Yeah, it's not like I described in the thread why he would do that in my opinion-
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Ok, but my point still stands. The reasons in the threads don't make sense.Yeah, it's not like I described in the thread why he would do that in my opinion-
Because? People agreed with the reasonsOk, but my point still stands. The reasons in the threads don't make sense.
^Look I'm all for dirty jokes but constantly repeating the same ones isn't funny.
It doesn't matter what people agreed on. The point of this thread is to talk about why specific vs threads don't make sense, which is exactly why I am bringing it up here. Vegeta wouldn't do that in character. He would most likely shoot a couple ki blasts, or go in physical. And even if he did start off with Diry Fireworks, they would both use one shot techniques to begin with, so whos saying he would use it first?Because? People agreed with the reasons
He would just finger her-
And the chances of tatsumaki finishing the fight the same way are equally as high?Yeah because obviously that vegeta doesn't finish his opponent that quickly:
1- his fight with saibamen, dirty fire works
2- His fight with nappa, onw shots him
3- fight with appul, talked a little but he didn't drail it [saim goes to dodoria and zarbon]
4- fight with the gintu force, finished most of them quickly
5- the namekians, one shots them
6- freiza, altho he was serious, he talked alot but he didn't drail it that much
7- against goku, he semi derailed but got quickly angry
We notice that folders he knows or don't know gets finished quickly
Against people that are equal to him, he drails the fight [but not too much]
Against people that are stronger than him, he gets midblife crisis and either goes ape shit, talks too much or just gives up [or sometimes all]
Tatsumaki looks fodder, she's a fodder [in term of ap] and he doesn't know her, she's also green
So chances that he is going to quickly finishes off the fight
Vegeta would literally just see her as a human. He wouldn't bother using dirty fireworks. He would literally just shoot a ki blast or two. Maybe insult her, which would prompt Tatsumaki to kill him even more.So either she uses her move, or vegeta uses his move
I mean, I guess, but he wouldn't use that move. That's the thing that people aren't understanding.So either she uses her move, or vegeta uses his move
He. Wouldn't. Use. That. Move. In. Character.Both activate their ability by one single movement, vegeta just extends his finger, or she extends and uses her ability
She can redirect it, or dodge.A ki blast is enough
I thiiink he used it maybye once more in the android saga. I think.I honestly think saying Dirty Fireworks is a standard opening move for Vegeta, is massive wanking, considering he uses it on Saibamen of all things, and Cui, making it what, grand total of 3 uses across the entire series?
Bump...?I don't know if it's just me, but I think Gumball Watterson vs Peter Griffin needs to go. The main reason why Gumball won was because if Peter were to restrain him with his superior lifting strength, then Gumball could fuse with Peter and turn him into a zombie by remembering "Oh hey, I could assimilate this guy". And that could've been a good argument...if it was in-character for him. Literally the only reason why Gumball used his fusion in the first place was to lecture Anais on parasitic friends, so I seriously doubt Gumball is going to use it in a life-or-death situation, especially when his first tactic in any fight is to run away from his opponent (there's several examples listed on his profile). Besides, the amount of times Gumball has actually used any of his hax offensively can be counted on one hand.
And considering Peter's massive skill/experience advantage, I don't think he's gonna let that happen (just watch any of Family Guy's chicken fights; heck, Peter even used his teleportation in the first one when Ernie tried to escape from him). And if Gumball's regen is a concern, Gumball can still get knocked out (here, here, and here), so I'm pretty sure Peter's gonna land a good hit at some point considering, again, the chicken fights, as well as Peter's AP advantage, since Gumball is, well...pretty low into Small Building level.
Saitama unquantifiably upscales from 7.97 Zettatons while Goku is 19.8133 Zettatons. Since you can’t prove how much stronger Saitama is than Orochi their AP was presumed to be roughly equal.Goku vs Saitama match has a problem my issue is that the match should've been an AP stomp in Saitama's favor as looking at the profiles Goku should be almost equal to Oroshi in terms of AP (only 2x AP difference which is nothing) while Saitama is leagues above that effortlessly and goku didn't have any other advantages except in terms of skills
Saitama effortlessly one shot Oroshi who has almost the same AP as Goku (only 2,5x AP difference) this is called logic and simple mathsSaitama unquantifiably upscales from 7.97 Zettatons while Goku is 19.8133 Zettatons. Since you can’t prove how much stronger Saitama is than Orochi their AP was presumed to be roughly equal
I meant that the difference in AP between Oroshi and Goku isn't hugeA 2.5x difference is not “almost the same”
Yes being only twice stronger than Orochi is something that Saitama obviously can't handle effortlessly since 2x AP difference is clearly a big AP gap.......That doesn't mean Saitama can one-shot Goku
I don't rememberWas Kaioken allowed?
it does since the difference between 7,97 and 19,8133 is only 2,5x which is absolutely nothing compared to what Saitama did.......Just because Saitama can one shot 7.97 Zettatons doesn’t mean he can one shot 19.8133 Zettatons.
Looking at OP Kaioken is restricted...... Even betterI don't remember
You have feats or statements to show that? Since we can't assume multipliers no matter how casual the one shotting was.it does since the difference between 7,97 and 19,8133 is only 2,5x which is absolutely nothing compared to what Saitama did.......
Goku doesn't need kaioken to win. He likely has an AP advantage, massively outskill Saitama in anything regarding CQC, and can both fly or use Nimbus to attack him from above, since Saitama can't flyLooking at OP Kaioken is restricted...... Even better
Goku with Kaioken would've slapped Saitama into oblivion so of course it was restricted.Looking at OP Kaioken is restricted...... Even better
You mean the visual feats alone showing Saitama effortlessly stomping Oroshi with a normal punch?You have feats or statements to show that
But we can safely assume that 2,5x AP difference is nothing from we sawSince we can't assume multipliers no matter how casual the one shotting was.
Don't bring an other verse that has nothing to do with OPMHell, in Dragon Ball
Maybe, maybe because power level numbers are just inconsistent in Dragon ball? This doesn't mean shitwe saw Vegeta easily stomping Dodoria after his zenkai, despite being only less than 1.1 times stronger (Dodoria is 22,000 and Post-Zenkai Vegeta is 24,000. 24,000/22,000 = 1.0909 times)
If he want to get stomped then sureGoku doesn't need kaioken to win
It's the other way aroundHe likely has an AP advantage
Which doesn't matter when the AP difference is huge as ****massively outskill Saitama in anything regarding CQC, and can both fly or use Nimbus to attack him from above, since Saitama can't fly
No we can't, that's not how it works. That's not enough to say Saitama stomps GokuBut we can safely assume that 2,5x AP difference is nothing from we saw
Based on?No we can't, that's not how it works. That's not enough to say Saitama stomps Goku