Using a bad idea to test the waters for a worse idea. (Ganondorf vs Wang Lin)

[Dienomite22]

Wang Li (Nascent Soul) vs Ganondorf (Pre-Triforce of Power)

SBA

Both High 6-A

No prep

Speed Equalized

Wang Li(0):

Ganondorf(0):

Inconclusive(0):

Somehow all the characters that I want to create matches for all seem perfect for TLoZ for some reason.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Can't people just say what the match is in the title instead of all this "this is a bad idea" spam bs

 

[Robot972]

Can't people just say what the match is in the title instead of all this "this is a bad idea" spam bs

No, because that would be too easy. People have to say it in the titles instead of the post itself so the posts all look the same

 

[Dienomite22]

Tbh, if I put a nobody like Wang Lin in the title people wouldn't care

I gotta lure them in somehow

 

[Dienomite22]

bump

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Sooo... Ganon BFRs?

 

[Dust_Collector]

I don't think he BFRs, this version of Ganon isn't smart enough to try something like that anytime soon. The only things we see botched resurrection Ganon do is teleportation, energy projection, trident attacks, and that spatial bending thing where he reverses your movements for a brief while. Also am I missing something in regards to Nascent Soul Wang Lin? Because his profile lists that key at 5-C not High 6-A.

 

[InfiniteSped]

He probably meant Core Formation

 

[Dienomite22]

Finally the ball is starting to roll.

@Dust Collector

No, Wang Lin with prep is 5-C aka Soul Formation/Transformation. Nascent Soul cultivators are High 6-A as you can see here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...thesis#.C2.A0Core_Formation.2FBone_Sacrifice_

Wang Lin's profile is missing his Soul Formation key for some reason.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Wang Lin, like all the other protagonists, is very overpowered for his stage and can fight people much stronger. His Nascent Soul is equal to Spirit Severing, while his Core Formation is equal to Nascent Soul.

 

[Dienomite22]

All of Wang Lin's feats for his High 6-A key come from when he was at the Nascent Soul stage and as his ap states he has a chance at beating Soul Formation cultivators only with prep. But he does have some abilities (and I believe some defenses aswell) that work on Soul Formation cultivators.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

oh wait, this is botched resurrection ganon. Okay, so he opens with like, reality warping shit, but that doesn't really help offensively

 

[Dienomite22]

Does Botched Resurrection Ganon have anything else? I picked him because I thought that was his strongest High 6-A version.

 

[InfiniteSped]

All of Wang Lin's feats for his High 6-A key come from when he was at the Nascent Soul stage and as his ap states he has a chance at beating Soul Formation cultivators only with prep. But he does have some abilities (and I believe some defenses aswell) that work on Soul Formation cultivators.

You're looking at his third key, Core Formation:

• Likely Multi-Continent level (Even when dividing his divine sense into 1000 parts, each is at Peak Core level cultivators), likely higher with Heaven Opening Techniques (It's a summon made entire of spiritual energy which reaches the clouds, its simple attacks destroy anything to nothing but light particles. Made the entire Country of Zhao tremble). Moon level via preparation (His restrictions harmed characters comparable to Hunchback Meng, and he plain states to have a chance to beat Soul Formatio cultivators)

His Nascent Soul key is:

• At least Moon level (Is comparable to 2nd Spirit Severing Cultivators), likely far higher with Heaven Opening Technique and Divine Retribution Lightning

 

[Dienomite22]

@InfiniteSpeed

Oh yea, you're right. Wang Lin having no Soul Formation key ****** me up.

 

[Dienomite22]

But why does his Core Formation key have feats from when Wang Lin was at the Nascent Soul stage in it's reasoning key? Teng Huayan was Nascent Soul stage and the Country of Zhao tremble and Heaven Opening Techniques stuff happened when Wang Lin was at the Nascent Soul stage. Wouldn't that mean Teng Huayan is 5-C?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Not sure, you should ask Zara

 

[Dust_Collector]

Does Botched Resurrection Ganon have anything else? I picked him because I thought that was his strongest High 6-A version.

Yeah botched resurrection Ganon is his strongest key in terms of raw power, but his intelligence is really low in this state and his mindset in battle is teleportation, energy Projection, basic trident slashes, and at some point he'll do some reality warping stuff that reverses his opponents movements for a while. Plus his AP advantage over his other High 6-A version is pretty small anyway.

 

[Dienomite22]

Not sure, you should ask Zara

I take it back, I believe I was correct the first time.

Wang Lin's Nascent Soul stage is his High 6-A tier and 5-C with prep for being able to potentially kill a Soul Formation aka 1st Spirit Severing cultivator.

Soul Formation/Soul Transformation is 1st and 2nd Spirit Severing stage respectively. And his 5-C tier comes from when he was at the Soul Transformation stage.

Wang Lin is missing a Core Formation Country level AP tier which should be between his 6-C and High 6-A key.

Also, his Soul Transformation key should just be called Spirit Severing since it's a mesh of his Soul Transformation and Soul Formation stages as of right now.

 

[Dienomite22]

Yeah botched resurrection Ganon is his strongest key in terms of raw power, but his intelligence is really low in this state and his mindset in battle is teleportation, energy Projection, basic trident slashes, and at some point he'll do some reality warping stuff that reverses his opponents movements for a while. Plus his AP advantage over his other High 6-A version is pretty small anyway.

Perhaps I should use his first High 6-A key to make it more fair?

 

[Dienomite22]

tiny nudge

 

[Dienomite22]

bump

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Yeah, I think that would be better.

 

[Dienomite22]

I switched It.

 

[Dienomite22]

pop

 

[Dienomite22]

bump

 

[Dienomite22]

bump

 

[Dienomite22]

bump

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Alright, so Ganon BFRs

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Better to contact Zaratthustra so he sees this...

 

[Dienomite22]

I did showed it to him but he didn't speak about it, same for the other thread.

 

[Dienomite22]

According to Risci, Wang Lin is going to be revised in the near future so this match will likely have to be put on hold

 

[Nepuko]

That key is Core Wang, not Nascent.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Nepuko

I don't understand how Wang's High 6-A key works because it seems to take stuff from when Wang Lin was at the Nascent Soul stage. I'll ask about it in the discussion thread when I have time.

 

[Nepuko]

@Nepuko
I don't understand how Wang's High 6-A key works because it seems to take stuff from when Wang Lin was at the Nascent Soul stage. I'll ask about it in the discussion thread when I have time.

If you're talking about the Heaven Opening Technique that was in his Core Key, that was a mistake.