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His travel speed is much slower than arrows
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The Legend Zelda: Planet Busting Edition
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Yeah, the speed update is reasonable and movement speed isn't that impressive but it may still be superhumanish given he could keep up with certain vehicles but fine with peakhuman for now.
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You can parry the guardian lasers all the time in BOTW just like in AOC, And the TOTK versions of these dudes are them at their best.
Like if needs be we can just get relativistic calcs from BOTW where Link does the same feats, but I don't think that's necessary.
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Yeah peak human is just more of a rough ballpark of where he should be, could be superhuman if we look hard enough but that can be done another day. Don't think anyone will lose sleep if Links running speed is slightly slower than it should be for now.
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I mean gameplay wise ljme peak human to superhuman but actually he can outrun wolves so superhuman is the way to go and I have a calc for subsonic swim speed
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I completely forgot there are wolves in this game, dunno how since I grinded them for prime meat to sell lmao. Yeah superhuman works for him then.
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I legit maybe forgot to blog my zora armor swim speed, it got like 98m/s
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Damn that's pretty good, pretty sure that applies to the swimming speed of every Zora too.
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For sure, I'll blog it when im home in like 4 or 5 hours
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How would that apply to their swimming speed? Can't we just go by how fast Sidon ascends to the Water Temple proper, or calc Sidon making the whirlpool?
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Aside from just being a marrige thing the Zora armor is made to make link specifically be able to swim like a Zora, that's its whole point of the armor.
So Link's swim speed isn't Link exclusive as all Zora can fo what he did and swim up stream and vertically up waterfalls
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Uh yeah, that's why I said "how fast Sidon ascends to the Water Temple proper"
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What's the amount of staff support needed for decently large revisions like this again? It's like 5 or 6 ain't it?
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You've got enough support for this and the thread is older than 48 hours. You're good to apply
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Ah neat, I shall start applying them now then
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Wait hol up just working on BOTW Link's keys now, what was the general consensus on his midgame / sages scaling?
We doing 5-C via scaling to weakened Ganondorf? Or we doing 5-C, likey 5-A or straight up 5-A for being somewhat comparable to full power Dorf?
We doing 5-C via scaling to weakened Ganondorf? Or we doing 5-C, likey 5-A or straight up 5-A for being somewhat comparable to full power Dorf?
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Thought we were saving that for now?
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We're saving making the pages for the sages / a proper revamp for Link but the actual scaling is meant to be set in stone for when the sages profiles are made, also kinda need to know what to put for TOTK Link's midgame key (Unless we're doing what we're doing with OOT/MM Link and making TOTK Link a separate profile, I know that was discussed a little bit since having them as one page would lead to 7 keys.
Not a big deal since that's the only undecided thing at the moment, so there's no rush.
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I guess 5-C likely 5-A then
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Anyone else agree with 5-C, likely 5-A for midgame TOTK Link and the Sages?
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BTW since Link needs a lot more to discuss for his TOTK self, for now I'm only doing his BOTW keys if that's fine. I'll cook up something for him later that encompasses all the additions he needs (Not just stats, but equipment, abilities, etc...) since he needs a pretty big revision anyway.
Much like the sages, getting the scaling accepted for his TOTK self is more just getting ready for his future profile revamp instead of applying it right away. Thankfully Ganondorf, the TOTK bosses, and the Sages don't require him from scaling besides speed but they would scale to his BOTW self in speed anyway.
Much like the sages, getting the scaling accepted for his TOTK self is more just getting ready for his future profile revamp instead of applying it right away. Thankfully Ganondorf, the TOTK bosses, and the Sages don't require him from scaling besides speed but they would scale to his BOTW self in speed anyway.
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I'm good with everything suggested, so I say go for it (plus a dude on reddit made an extensive Champions RT so we can just steal that)
To add standard Link and Ganondorf can scale to the new Low 5-B calc so not all is lost
To add standard Link and Ganondorf can scale to the new Low 5-B calc so not all is lost
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Yeah I think now that this CRT is all cleaned up, we can look to upgrading the High 6-A dudes from that Low 5-B calc
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Is it really power null if it was done by destroying the sword? Like if I were to break the master sword in half it would obviously lose its power
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Don't think the sword breaking made it lose it's power, when it broke apart the shattered pieces that didn't have Gloom on them still had sacred energy within them which is why that one shard still burned Ganondorf's face, plus it couldn't regenerate until Zelda started actively pouring energy into it.
In hindsight putting in that it couldn't heal itself without help might've been a good idea to justify it a bit.
In hindsight putting in that it couldn't heal itself without help might've been a good idea to justify it a bit.
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Maybe it still had some sacred energy left behind? And it not regenerating could be a limitation to its regeneration I'm not sure why that is relevant
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Can you try looking at the profiles and figure out what the scaling chain is? I don't know if its explained well enough here
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Its explained pretty simple, Divine beast are low 7-B and calamity ganon is 7-B for being 4x them.
Not remotely complex
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Because for some reason the Guardians profile only tiered them as a collective, gonna try make a dedicated clean up CRT for them and the Blight Ganons this weekend. Individually they should be roughly Low 7-B since a small group could still overwhelm Pre-Calamity Link, likely downscaling from the other Low 7-Bs
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Just scale them to baseline Low 7-B
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this works for me
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*8x. All of them together only dealt half his health.
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Bruh we don't use in game health bars as indicators for how strong a character is without good reason to do so. He would just be 4x
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Yeah, which is why he's 7-B instead of Low 7-B.
It's explained pretty clearly in the OP.
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