Upgrading for Cloud and Sephiroth.

[Rocks75]

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=202138

There is a calc for Typhoon calced at 1 tenaton, and other for Bahamut Fury at 1 ninaton.

Bahamut Fury and Zack are stronger than Typhoon, but they are below Cloud, while Cloud is a bit below or on par with Sephiroth.

So, Cloud and Sephiroth can be upgraded to large planet level+ and FTL+?

 

[Darkness552]

do you want me to highlight this

 

[The_Everlasting]

I'm all for it.

 

[Rocks75]

do you want me to highlight this

Yes.

 

[UzumakiKurisu]

Sounds good to me.

 

[Darkness552]

i agree with this as well

 

[SwordSlayer99]

I agree with this.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Well I'm in full agreement with this...

 

[Antvasima]

This seems reasonable to me.

 

[Rocks75]

Ok, I can put Cloud and Sephiroth at large planet level+ and FTL+?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

But provide a link to the calculation and insert a power-scaling explanation.

 

[Rocks75]

I made a power-scaling explanation, as they are stronger than Bahamut Fury and Zack.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

I agree, for now.

 

[Sheoth]

Ooooooh, this is quite the upgrade. Sure why not it looks pretty good.

 

[The_Everlasting]

According to Sephiroth's profile, do we now accept Sephiroth's Supernova as being a legit Supernova?

Also, shouldn't Zack be upgraded as well? And I can't seem to find the calc linked in either of the pages.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am not very knowledgeable about the issue, but a full supernova would still be more than a Large Planet level opponent like Cloud can withstand.

Anyway, if Zack is superior to Typhoon, I think that he can be upgraded as well.

What do you mean with that you cannot find the calculations above?

 

[The_Everlasting]

I meant they're not linked in the profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Please feel free to insert the above link then.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Already done, and Zack's profile has been updated.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you.

 

[YusukeUrameshiIsMyWaifu]

Would this make Sephiroth's supernova consistent?

 

[ThePerpetual]

That's an excellent question. Does this mean that Sephiroth's supernova now counts as an actual supernova?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Well, it's mentioned on Sephiroth's page, so I assume it is.

 

[Sheoth]

Well, when I simply search for Sephiroth's Supernovaon youtube, it shows his attack obliterating a couple Planets and then setting off the sun, in turn destroying more Planets.

But I don't think that alone is Solar System level. Wouldn't it simply be Star level considering it busted the sun?

 

[ThePerpetual]

That would make them even higher, then. Last I checked, the force of a supernova was greater than Large Planet-Small Star.

 

[The_Everlasting]

A supernova emits enough force to nearly destroy a solar system (As in, it only takes 5.7 to be solar system level). But let's wait before we change it.

 

[ThePerpetual]

...which is still Star Level-Large Star Level.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Yup, very high Large Star Level in fact, as in, a supernova can actually destroy around 68 large stars.

 

[Sheoth]

No, Solar System level Characters can wipe out the entire Solar System up to Neptune with one attack. It requires a ridiculously higher amount of energy than Star Busting simply due to the range of the Actual Solar System. Based on this logic, Cell should be Solar System level due to being able to destroy the sun.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I know, I'm just saying a supernova is very close to the requirement to destroy a solar system.

 

[Sheoth]

I was actually replying to ThePerpetual, but what you said makes sense as well.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

That depends actually. A supernova could release around 1-2 foe of energy so your attack would technically need to have the power of 3-6 supernovas to destroy a solar system the size of ours...

I don't really consider supernovas as close to solar system level cuz of this...

 

[The_Everlasting]

Oh, my bad.

 

[Sheoth]

Well, the point remains that Sephiroth Busting the Sun doesn't make him Solar System level.

He should be changed to Star level with Supernova.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Wouldn't he be Large Star Level with Supernova since that's how much energy is released in a supernova?

 

[Sheoth]

No, his attack didn't generate Supernova level energy, it had Star busting energy and the Sun then went supernova.

Like I said, if that warrants a Large Star level rating, then Cell should be upgraded as well.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Well, it was just the attack's name that made me think it was Large Star Level, but whatever, I'll go and change Sephiroth's profile.

 

[Sheoth]

Yeah, it is kind of a misleading name.