Yes. But you do know that you can't get any higher in this tier with multipliers right? A character that can destroy 3 universes isn't getting to the level of one that can destroy 15 with a five times multiplier.DTG499 said:
What? Gogeta has a multiplier that puts him far above the power of a character comparable to Beerus, which makes him 2-C. The scaling is what puts him this high, the multipliers just give him the necessary power to be above or comparable to two GoDs.DTG499 said:
He scales far above a character who is stated to be comparable to Beerus. Both Whis and Vados point out that the combined ower of two GoDs would destroy both their universes, which is a 2-C feat. Since, Gogeta very likely scales above the power of two GoDs, then he's 2-C.DTG499 said:
I'm fairly sure they meant that having one's power scale into 2-C was the exception IIRC. The multiplier part comes from the fact that Gogeta uses one to get this strong, which isn't usually accepted under normal circumstances.DTG499 said:
The fact that distances between universes are not only unquantifiable but may also vary means that even if that was a multiplier it still wouldn't allow Gogeta to scale further into 2-C. And the combined power of two GoDs being 2-C isn't a multiplier, it just so happens to be somwewhat discernible from the perspective of a Low 2-C.DTG499 said:
We know X amount of power can destroy two universes, A third one could be anything from a few light-years to an infinite distance away, which is why even with his multipliers, he's still baseline as the power required to breach the distance to other universes is still unquantifiable.DTG499 said:
There's also the matter of distance between timelines likely being inconsistent. If I destroy two universes that are A light-years apart, even if I amp my power with a 5 times multiplier, if the nearest universe to those aformentioned two is 50A light-years away, them I'm not moving from baseline.Akreious said:
He scales far enough above half the power needed to perform a 2-C feat that he was given the tier outright. However, he cannot move further up the tier with up-scaling alone. He either needs to showcase feats or scale to something or someone equivalent.DTG499 said:
The multiplier isn't what's important here. Hell, the wiki doesn't even agree on what the SSJ multipliers actually are. With a multiplier, he achieves power equivalent to what is needed to perform a 2-C feat. Anything beyond that requires feats or something similar since the distance between universes on the axis may not be constant and some could be far further away (even infinitely) from others.DTG499 said:
Something that leaves me wondering since we have a certain other 2-C with an infinte multiplier that stays at 2-C without fuss. But such is Dragon Ball.BlastX said:
Start a thread asking what the SSJ multipliers are and watch the fireworks. Look, I've tried to explained it the best I could. I even agree that our current stance on the Low 2-C to 2-C gap has some holes (I could give an example but that's not important right now) but until some miraculous scientific discovery or another tiering system ovehaul, this is how we treat Tier 2.DTG499 said:
Um, yeah? Let's say Alice and Bob are powerful aliens that are equal to each other. In a heated battle, they throw their strongest attacks at each other and their combined energy destroyed two galaxies that are 50 light-years apart in a single blow. Charlie is another alien on their level we're introduced to. Can you actually determine the combined power of the three can destroy three galaxies when the third can be anywhere from 50 to infinite light-years away (assume the universe is High 3-A)?DTG499 said:
