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Unpopular opinions.

Why do you keep it going by responding to this you ain’t a admin, besides if we both bring up arguments it will only go on for longer what’s the point of you commenting here right now? Besides making to go for longer.
 
This is not a discussion that needs everybody to get the last word, this is just cluttering. There is no reason to be doing this, the conversation ends here. Please do not respond to this, because I won't either.
 
You want admin to respond to your absurd argument? Fine. I'm a discussion moderator and I'm telling to shut it. Now drop this stupid argument.
 
Who is absurd here? You think you can shut me up because your discussion moderator. Do you actually wanna debate this or do you wanna tell me to shut up because of that label below your name? Besides try and tell me why i am absurd with points instead of just outright saying it because you can.
 
Says he'll drop the argument
I come in, reinforce it
Acts condescending, proceeds to reference a moderator
Mod comes in
Backtracks like the entire railroad blew up
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Don't die on this hill, we can all go back to doing what we do with no more points given, no need to be rude here on either side.
 
Demon Slayer is bad, I can't even enjoy the first episode
Sonic Generation is terrible, you basically just playing the reskin version of old games and the only actual good Sonic game is Sonic CD
Pokemon was never that good
 
1)People really don't know how to draw the lines with what's actual plot in a game and what isn't. Especially with bonus stuff.

2)DB has the craziest double standard I ever saw. Sometimes rules change partly to prevent an upgrade, and sometimes they are ignored just to not make them below a certain tier or speed.

3)An official translation isn't a perfect translation. If raws are given with an accurate translation, refusing it is just expecting the official litterary translation to change something.

4) Akasha's thread proved its 1-A, but the current justification sucks and it just is yet another open door to 1-A misunderstanding.

5) In fact, the whole "as long as it is either stated, shown or left very obvious that the character in question already bypasses the very nature of such structures altogether, in a way that simply "stacking" more of them logically would not allow one to reach their level of power / size" in 1-A justification is vague enough to be a big open door to interpretations about what actually qualify or not.

6)Most current fantastical/power-based stories just don't know how to handle the evolution of a character. Even if they are supposed to be an underdog, you'll see them as your generic 2020/2021 OP protagonist in only a few arc. Same goes for characters who are already strong from the get-go.
Barely can count the ones handled correctly on my fingers.

7)Being popular isn't being overrated.

8)VSB is mostly hated because it is the most famous VS website. It sure isn't perfect, but some people litteraly will say every VS group and wiki are above it and focus only on the negative, going from the idea that they can't be wrong.

9)Immeasurable and Irrelevant speed shouldn't exist, and they mostly exist for the sake of tradition and having something more overpowered for the most ridiculous dudes. Suggverse may be one of the only verse which actively have them as a form of speed.

10) Crossovers should put more unknown characters/franchise under the light. Smash Bros did it well for some, and there's no reason to NOT do it.

11)Things aren't just limited to "I beat that dude without hax, so I'm as strong as he is". Some stories can easily make a bunch of 9-B beat a 4-A as part of its story. Case by case isn't enough of a thing, even more for big franchises.

12)Some verses get "10 outliers/inconsistencies" refused for their tier, then you find five more verses which have a tier based on a single feat nobody came close to reproduce or even out of context.
Alternatively, some scaling are just a copy/paste of the same justification over and over without considering the idea of case by case being a thing.

13)Staff are helpful people who proved that they made sense a lot and suchlike, they aren't dictators who don't think blue names can be relevant. However there's a big lack of help in term of applying wiki-wide versions, and some dudes are more absent than anything. While people obviously have an actual life, it should definitely be taken into account a bit more.

14)K3 is one of the most beautiful VN I ever saw; however the writing part of this exact same artstyle also make it incompatible with translations.

15)Authors aren't using a shit ton of math instrument to make pixel perfect illustrations. Any calcs which has to guess the size of something has a big risk of being wrong, and story should always come before those.

16)The line between random fic and what we consider a web novel/manga/whatever that can be featured is thin. Very thin.

17)Nintendo has a bigger failure ratio than a success one in term of franchises and consoles launching.

18)Anyone who makes it fight is a monster.
 
Unwanteduser48 said:
and the only actual good Sonic game is Sonic CD
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Tis just your opinion but I hate Sonic CD for one simple reason.
The level design is dog shit and is completely nonsencial without a sense of flow or reasoning, and for a game based in a series all about momentum based gameplay there wasn't a whole lot of levels where you actually go fast
 
QuasiYuri said:
1)People really don't know how to draw the lines with what's actual plot in a game and what isn't. Especially with bonus stuff.

2)DB has the craziest double standard I ever saw. Sometimes rules change partly to prevent an upgrade, and sometimes they are ignored just to not make them below a certain tier or speed.

3)An official translation isn't a perfect translation. If raws are given with an accurate translation, refusing it is just expecting the official litterary translation to change something.

4) Akasha's thread proved its 1-A, but the current justification sucks and it just is yet another open door to 1-A misunderstanding.

5) In fact, the whole "as long as it is either stated, shown or left very obvious that the character in question already bypasses the very nature of such structures altogether, in a way that simply "stacking" more of them logically would not allow one to reach their level of power / size" in 1-A justification is vague enough to be a big open door to interpretations about what actually qualify or not.

6)Most current fantastical/power-based stories just don't know how to handle the evolution of a character. Even if they are supposed to be an underdog, you'll see them as your generic 2020/2021 OP protagonist in only a few arc. Same goes for characters who are already strong from the get-go.
Barely can count the ones handled correctly on my fingers.

7)Being popular isn't being overrated.

8)VSB is mostly hated because it is the most famous VS website. It sure isn't perfect, but some people litteraly will say every VS group and wiki are above it and focus only on the negative, going from the idea that they can't be wrong.

9)Immeasurable and Irrelevant speed shouldn't exist, and they mostly exist for the sake of tradition and having something more overpowered for the most ridiculous dudes. Suggverse may be one of the only verse which actively have them as a form of speed.

10) Crossovers should put more unknown characters/franchise under the light. Smash Bros did it well for some, and there's no reason to NOT do it.

11)Things aren't just limited to "I beat that dude without hax, so I'm as strong as he is". Some stories can easily make a bunch of 9-B beat a 4-A as part of its story. Case by case isn't enough of a thing, even more for big franchises.

12)Some verses get "10 outliers/inconsistencies" refused for their tier, then you find five more verses which have a tier based on a single feat nobody came close to reproduce or even out of context.
Alternatively, some scaling are just a copy/paste of the same justification over and over without considering the idea of case by case being a thing.

13)Staff are helpful people who proved that they made sense a lot and suchlike, they aren't dictators who don't think blue names can be relevant. However there's a big lack of help in term of applying wiki-wide versions, and some dudes are more absent than anything. While people obviously have an actual life, it should definitely be taken into account a bit more.

14)K3 is one of the most beautiful VN I ever saw; however the writing part of this exact same artstyle also make it incompatible with translations.

15)Authors aren't using a shit ton of math instrument to make pixel perfect illustrations. Any calcs which has to guess the size of something has a big risk of being wrong, and story should always come before those.

16)The line between random fic and what we consider a web novel/manga/whatever that can be featured is thin. Very thin.

17)Nintendo has a bigger failure ratio than a success one in term of franchises and consoles launching.

18)Anyone who makes it fight is a monster.
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these ain't even opinions lol it's just facts
 
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QuasiYuri said:
1)People really don't know how to draw the lines with what's actual plot in a game and what isn't. Especially with bonus stuff.

2)DB has the craziest double standard I ever saw. Sometimes rules change partly to prevent an upgrade, and sometimes they are ignored just to not make them below a certain tier or speed.

3)An official translation isn't a perfect translation. If raws are given with an accurate translation, refusing it is just expecting the official litterary translation to change something.

4) Akasha's thread proved its 1-A, but the current justification sucks and it just is yet another open door to 1-A misunderstanding.

5) In fact, the whole "as long as it is either stated, shown or left very obvious that the character in question already bypasses the very nature of such structures altogether, in a way that simply "stacking" more of them logically would not allow one to reach their level of power / size" in 1-A justification is vague enough to be a big open door to interpretations about what actually qualify or not.

6)Most current fantastical/power-based stories just don't know how to handle the evolution of a character. Even if they are supposed to be an underdog, you'll see them as your generic 2020/2021 OP protagonist in only a few arc. Same goes for characters who are already strong from the get-go.
Barely can count the ones handled correctly on my fingers.

7)Being popular isn't being overrated.

8)VSB is mostly hated because it is the most famous VS website. It sure isn't perfect, but some people litteraly will say every VS group and wiki are above it and focus only on the negative, going from the idea that they can't be wrong.

9)Immeasurable and Irrelevant speed shouldn't exist, and they mostly exist for the sake of tradition and having something more overpowered for the most ridiculous dudes. Suggverse may be one of the only verse which actively have them as a form of speed.

10) Crossovers should put more unknown characters/franchise under the light. Smash Bros did it well for some, and there's no reason to NOT do it.

11)Things aren't just limited to "I beat that dude without hax, so I'm as strong as he is". Some stories can easily make a bunch of 9-B beat a 4-A as part of its story. Case by case isn't enough of a thing, even more for big franchises.

12)Some verses get "10 outliers/inconsistencies" refused for their tier, then you find five more verses which have a tier based on a single feat nobody came close to reproduce or even out of context.
Alternatively, some scaling are just a copy/paste of the same justification over and over without considering the idea of case by case being a thing.

13)Staff are helpful people who proved that they made sense a lot and suchlike, they aren't dictators who don't think blue names can be relevant. However there's a big lack of help in term of applying wiki-wide versions, and some dudes are more absent than anything. While people obviously have an actual life, it should definitely be taken into account a bit more.

14)K3 is one of the most beautiful VN I ever saw; however the writing part of this exact same artstyle also make it incompatible with translations.

15)Authors aren't using a shit ton of math instrument to make pixel perfect illustrations. Any calcs which has to guess the size of something has a big risk of being wrong, and story should always come before those.

16)The line between random fic and what we consider a web novel/manga/whatever that can be featured is thin. Very thin.

17)Nintendo has a bigger failure ratio than a success one in term of franchises and consoles launching.

18)Anyone who makes it fight is a monster.
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Those are facts brooooo
 
QuasiYuri said:
9)Immeasurable and Irrelevant speed shouldn't exist, and they mostly exist for the sake of tradition and having something more overpowered for the most ridiculous dudes. Suggverse may be one of the only verse which actively have them as a form of speed.
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What happened with this? Did it get rejected because people disagreed or because it cannot be applied right now?
 
Metalballrun said:
What happened with this? Did it get rejected because people disagreed or because it cannot be applied right now?
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Massive FRA disagreements for Immeasurable removal yeah. Although I did make the thread badly and it was closed a bit too early imo but eh. Guess it could still have a second shot here when I get enough motivation to do anything relevant tho.

Irrelevant is supposed to still be debatted, since people want to absolutely keep another invented speed criteria, although none were accepted so far.
 
Unpopular opinion, aside from my other views on the speed, I think Irrelevant speed should also be removed to make removing irrelevant strength easier with bots.
 
A lot of people have the view that irrelevant is just a fancier version of immeasurable and does not have any true differences iirc
 
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