Unown Discussion & Molly Hale's Tiering

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I was going to make a character profile for Molly Hale from the third pokemon movie, but then realized there are a few things about the Unown that haven't been addressed before it can be possible :
First question : According to Oak, they can create new realities using other's dreams . Creating realities =/= Mind Manipulation . This more than likely is Low 2-C reality warping, unless one wants to correct me ?

Second Question : Isn't all the movies canon to each other, each of them together are their own continuity, like the games grouped together, and the nine grouped together. How come we viewed it as PIS for other pokemon, and take it as a legitimate feat for their durability, and as a result their AP ?

Third : question : How can we prove this is even the Sealed Trio in the manga instance ? No offense, but if Sealed Arceus is many times stronger than both combined , he should be capable of recreating them with a wave of his hand, plates or not. He's nev er been portrayed as that weak in any incarnation of Base Arceus, except for PIS from the Jewel of Life movie . If he needed outside help to accomplish this, I don't believe it was the sealed trio. Plus, if it was the sealed trio being destroyed here, wouldn't such a thing be not as bad as how they made it out to be in the manga ? And their interaction with the trio shouldnt downgrade this theory, as they are constantly afraid on everything . This is only for them grouped together BTW .

Final Question : A small amount of 4-D is still 4-D, right ? Unless you want me to believe the are infinitely weaker than a 4-D being ( High 3-A ) , they should be Low 2-C, or very high end High 3-A .

When all of this is answered, I would also want to discuss Hale's tiering . It depends on the answer given for the questions . The amount of Unowns that Hale had surpasses by a grand amount what Arceus had , keep in mind.

 

[Dark649]

Arceus, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina were not created at the time, so she does not scale to them nor other continuities, laslty she was helped by the Unown, not she surpassed them.

 

[Dark649]

Also, check here the differencies between the versions of the movie, we are using the original version.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

1) Creating a Reality =/= Creating a Universe. Pocket Reality Manipulation is a thing.

2) What?

3) They were not created at the time, as such they do not scale to her whatsoever. This is still Gen ll

4) High 3-A is a thing. And a High 3-A can still stomp another High 3-A iirc. Not like she's getting that anyway.

5) Creation Trio and Arceus have nothing to do with this seeing as they weren't even conceptualized at the time.

 

[Dark649]

The Unown only formed Entei, created pocket realities not above High 3-A size, changed Molly appearance with a team and free Molly's father.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Hmm... I guess I was misunderstood:

I didn't say she surpassed them. I said she had a greater number of Unown helping her than Arceus did when he revived the creation trio.

Wow. Good to know all my theorizing had absolutely no purpose.