Udl's Waifu Meets Mister Clean

[Udlmaster]

>I know that. They were just some examples of what are some basic requirements for 1-As are, I even said they are sometimes not accepted as 1-A despite having such things. So I don't see the need to bring that fact up in the first place.

Then that would just be a contradiction of their own definitions.

>Just because something is called a Platonic Concept, doesn't mean that it is. Conceptual Manipulation Type 2 is proof of this.

I disagree with False Platonic concepts as an idea in the first place and I think it's factually wrong by the definition of a Platonic concept and should be gotten rid of.

Also, the argument from Authority.

>Like you said, being beyond duality doesn't guarantee said being is 1-A.

Not what I said at all, try not to strawman me, here's what I said:

"Okay, 1. You don't have to be transdual to be 1-A."

Being beyond duality is 1-A, but you don't have to be Transdual to be 1-A.

>I just said the basic description for a 1-A being is to be beyond the concept of space, time, dimensions, duality, et cetera.

Not just, to quote yourself, "But there's so much saying they're 'transcendant'/above Space-time, which is what is needed for 1-A.".

Yes, but as we all know, the definition isn't just that, and is the reason why it needs said explainations, it's not skin deep.

>What you wrote here isn't inadequate for 1-A like you said, what I wrote was better, but it is still not definite.

You mean a realm which holds all concepts on a Platonic level and an archetypal level, then there being realms above that, with in this lower realm, there being stated to contain every concept in existence, even ones only thought up, which would include time, space, dimensions etc.

What about that isn't 1-A, again?

 

[Warren_Valion]

1. Things need to be looked at on a case-by-case basis. Some statements might be an outlier or are contradicted in the series, et cetera.

2. Make a CRT then. And I'm just pointing out a rule on the site, how am I "arguing from Authority"?

3. Sorry I misread what you wrote. I thought what you wrote was the opposite.

And no, the opposite is true. Being transdual doesn't guarantee that you are 1-A, but all 1-As are transdual. Look at the transdual profile's users, notice how they are all 1-A.

4. What are you even arguing here? I'm just saying the wording you used doesn't equate to the verse being 1-A.

5. No, what I was referring to was, "But there's so much saying they're transcendent/above Space-time".

What I said was better was me saying that they should be transcendent above the concepts of space, time, dimensions, duality, et cetera. Not just "being transcendent/above space-time" like you initially wrote.

And like I said, depending on the verse, this might not be enough to guarantee 1-A for reasons I've stated above. It really is governed on a case-by-case basis.

And I don't know the verse, so I don't know if there are reasons to doubt anything you might have said. Have that discussion with those who are informed on the series.

So all in all, either you're misconstrued on what I meant in what I wrote or you are using a strawman on me.

6. Stop derailing this thread, this isn't a talk about whether or not WoD is 1-A. This is a thread on whether or not God from WoD can defeat YHVH in a fight.

Like I mentioned a long time ago, summon the appearance on someone who is knowledgeable on SMT if you haven't already, although if you did I think they would have responded by now.

Some are:

• Matthew Schroeder
• Ultima Reality
• Dragonmasterxyz
• Darkanine
• Et cetera

Here's a link to the SMT's verse page for even more people.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Neither are even remotely 1-A

 

[Udlmaster]

Neither as in both characters?

Sure.

But the 1-A stuff is all in another thread which is going on currently.

As for now, I don't really see an argument for YVHV

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

bump

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

God FRA

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

But what if YHVH used detergent on God

 

[Warren_Valion]

I have summoned:

• Dragonmasterxyz
• Ultima Reality
• Matthew Schroeder

Like what should have been done days ago.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

If you mention someone, do they get a notif?

 

[Warren_Valion]

You have to summon them for them to get the notification.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I don't see anything fake God has that makes them win.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

If she scales to Mages who see the entire verse as Fiction, why isn't she 1-B?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Wait, that's the first time I heard of 1-B as legit.

 

[The_Causality]

>Matt and Ultima in a WoG thread

Following

 

[Udlmaster]

If she scales to Mages who see the entire verse as Fiction, why isn't she 1-B?

1. It's not Tier 1 RW, it's Infomation Manip, Plot Hax, Text hax etc and this only scales if he enters a certain state, and until then, it wouldn't scale.
2. Trying to Mind Hax him is pretty pointless, since he resists much stronger Mind Hax like this:

https://imgur.com/3wIZDdK

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I don't see anything fake God has that makes them win.

Which one?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Lol

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Anyway, yeah, unless WoD God has 10-D hax, she doesn't really have a chance against YHVH

 

[Udlmaster]

Is YHVH 10-D?

 

[DMB_1]

YHVH is a 9D with 10D immortality and 10D regen negation.

 

[Udlmaster]

This is a mismatch then.

The One Giver is 8-D

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...I literally asked you if she was 9-D and you said yes.

 

[Udlmaster]

"The One Giver has 9-D Plot hax, information hax etc.

I do have a statement that would make her 9-D in general and give her 10-D Plot hax, Information hax etc."

No one responded if YVHV was 9-D.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Then make her 9-D in general...

 

[Yobo_Blue]

YHVH is indeed 9-D. Even if his Covenant isn't 100% a 10-D ability, it still is impenetrable by all 9-D stuff in the verse (including Almighty) and comes from a 10-D being

 

[Udlmaster]

Well, I would...

But "Please wait until the revisions are done"

And currently, this is a mismatch.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

bump

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

buymp

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

• God smackes his head

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bump

 

[Udlmaster]

Oh, my message didn't send.

Well, what I had said in that message a few hours ago, was that this is a mismatch.

8-D vs 9-D/10-D

 

[Udlmaster]

Okay, can Mister Clean's abilities affect a Transdual being?

If not, then The One Giver of L's gives Mister Clean this L.

 

[DMB_1]

How good is that transduality?

And didn't you say that God is 8D?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

So Mr. Clean wins with the covenant? Or is this a stomp? How many D's is Uld's waifu?

 

[Udlmaster]

8-D with 9-D Plot, Information, text etc. hax. All the things a Storyteller would have.

The reason why I said it was a mismatch was because 9-D passive hax obliterates the One Giver.

The One Giver is above Places that are Transdual by their nature, The One Giver is completely unbound by Unity, Duality and Triality, as they were but creations by the Angels.

 

[DMB_1]

And if this transduality is 8D, he gets still stepped on.

Besides, transdulaityis bascially like type 5 acausality, You need to be more concrete about its applications.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Mr. Clean keeps his crown then.

 

[Udlmaster]

Transduality isn't based on a Dimensional level.

 

[DMB_1]

Yes, it is.

Trascening Good and Evil doens't mean you trascend all dimensions.