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A while ago, type 5 immortality was changed from Perfect Immortality reserved for tier 0 characters to Deathless Immortality. It was said that we would make an eleventh type for tier 0 characters, but that never happened. I say it's high time we do so. Even this article lies by saying that no immortality is perfect. There is not a single being in all of fiction that can kill any one of these seven characters.
 
Bobsican said:
There is.
However, that would fall as a huge NLF.

I mean, I meet some guy in YT that makes something that makes Suggsverse look like fodder, as he states that no other fiction than itself can affect his verse.
What are you talking about?

This immortality, to my knowledge, would only be acquired by Tier 0 beings.

Which are Questionably Omnipotent.
 
Warren Valion said:
What are you talking about?

This immortality, to my knowledge, would only be acquired by Tier 0 beings.

Which are Questionably Omnipotent.
Omnipotence doesn`t mean that they can take truly anything, I would say that`s an NLF, but it`s tier 0 what we are talking about.

In theory, existance erasure from similar beings should bypass their durability, which would fall in immortality type 10.
 
Bobsican said:
Omnipotence doesn`t mean that they can take truly anything, I would say that`s an NLF, but it`s tier 0 what we are talking about.

In theory, existance erasure from similar beings should bypass their durability, which would fall in immortality type 10.
Dude. Omnipotence is "all-powerful". They can do anything.

They are unbeatable. Convention ideas like NLF does not apply to omnipotent beings.

Tier 0: Boundless

0: "True Infinity"
Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything, including existence and nonexistence, possibility, causality, dualism and non-dualism, the concepts of life and death, and their analogues at any level.
 
Warren Valion said:
Dude. Omnipotence is "all-powerful". They can do anything.

They are unbeatable. Convention ideas like NLF does not apply to omnipotent beings.

Tier 0: Boundless

0: "True Infinity"
Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything, including existence and nonexistence, possibility, causality, dualism and non-dualism, the concepts of life and death, and their analogues at any level.
Still fits in immortality type 10, or how do you think a match with tier 0s ends up?
 
Bobsican said:
Warren Valion said:
Dude. Omnipotence is "all-powerful". They can do anything.

They are unbeatable. Convention ideas like NLF does not apply to omnipotent beings.

Tier 0: Boundless

0: "True Infinity"
Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything, including existence and nonexistence, possibility, causality, dualism and non-dualism, the concepts of life and death, and their analogues at any level.
Still fits in immortality type 10, or how do you think a match with tier 0s ends up?
It wouldn't happen, because 2 tier 0 would basically be the same thing. There can't be more than 1 omnipotent being. Oh, and tier 0 matches are banned.
 
DMB 1 said:
It wouldn't happen, because 2 tier 0 would basically be the same thing. There can't be more than 1 omnipotent being. Oh, and tier 0 matches are banned.
There can, the reason they are banned is because it`s impossible to tell who will move first, not because they can`t bypass the durability of the other.
 
Bobsican said:
DMB 1 said:
It wouldn't happen, because 2 tier 0 would basically be the same thing. There can't be more than 1 omnipotent being. Oh, and tier 0 matches are banned.
There can, the reason they are banned is because it`s impossible to tell who will move first, not because they can`t bypass the durability of the other.
I'm sorry, what?

2 beings that are absolute and 1st can't be different. ANd the reason that tier 0 matches are banned is because they don't make any sense, and they are pointelss, because nowone can defeat eachother.

Back to the immotality thing, if you really wanna add a new one, maybe immortality via having a natural function in the realm you are in, and your erasure/absence would cause devastating consequencees to it. Or something like that, but it's already kind of similiar to type 8.
 
DMB 1 said:
I'm sorry, what?

2 beings that are absolute and 1st can't be different.
Ever heard of this thing called personality?

What do you mean by 1st, by the way?
 
Tier 0 matches are not banned because it's "impossible to tell who will move first" it is because it is completely impossible to determine which is stronger. Both beings are at the absolute pinnacle of their own personal hierarchy and can do essentially anything that they want.

Debating tier 0s is utterly pointless because, for all intents and purposes, they are completely even in power and abilities.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
Tier 0 matches are not banned because it's "impossible to tell who will move first" it is because it is completely impossible to determine which is stronger. Both beings are at the absolute pinnacle of their own personal hierarchy and can do essentially anything that they want.
Debating tier 0s is utterly pointless because, for all intents and purposes, they are completely even in power and abilities.
In that case, it`s simply impossible to tell how highly-dimensional they exactly are one from the other? As one can see other tier 0 as fiction, while the other sees the other tier 0 as part of its dream, for example?
 
No tier 0 is high-dimensional anyway. High 1-B is the end of dimensions, and 1-A is above them entirely.

Also no, no tier 0 will ever be able to interact with another tier 0. If two tier 0s exist in the same verse, they instantly drop to High 1-A, since you have to be the supreme being of your hierarchy to achieve tier 0.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
No tier 0 is high-dimensional anyway. High 1-B is the end of dimensions, and 1-A is above them entirely.
Also no, no tier 0 will ever be able to interact with another tier 0. If two tier 0s exist in the same verse, they instantly drop to High 1-A, since you have to be the supreme being of your hierarchy to achieve tier 0.
It`s impossible to have 2 or more tier 0s in the same verse then? Even if they are the same being?
 
Bobsican said:
Assaltwaffle said:
No tier 0 is high-dimensional anyway. High 1-B is the end of dimensions, and 1-A is above them entirely.
Also no, no tier 0 will ever be able to interact with another tier 0. If two tier 0s exist in the same verse, they instantly drop to High 1-A, since you have to be the supreme being of your hierarchy to achieve tier 0.
It`s impossible to have 2 or more tier 0s in the same verse then? Even if they are the same being?
A tier 0 can create a clone of himslef, but he can simply re-fuse with him afterwise.
 
0 and High 1-A were going to have an immortality akin to the old Type 5, but nothing really came of it.
 
Tier 0s don't need any tier 0 specific abilities other than questionable omnipotence, since that covers literally everything else. No need for type 11 immortality for tier 0 only. Didn't Nyarlathotep used to have old type 5 for some reason?
 
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