Tricky the Clown vs Tuco Salamanca.... but not really

[Employe]

Tuco has started to suffer from a frustration, which motivated him to try expand own "Business" to Nevada. He hears that local "inventors" have discovered a new sort of blue drug, "Dissonant reality", and he untentionally confuses it with meth and noe aspired to capture a consigment of this substance

Tricky at his base pre-drive key. Both are 9-C.
Battle takes in the Tuco's office (Where Waltuh blowed him), Tuco is high on meth, Tricky is on dissonant reality, they are given M4A1

Speed is equal

Tuco https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tuco_Salamanca

Tricky https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tricky_the_Clown?so=search

 

[Employe]

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[Employe]

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[Kellex]

I don't even need to look at their profiles, I already know Tricky stomps hard in both speed equal and unequal.

 

[Employe]

I don't even need to look at their profiles, I already know Tricky stomps hard in both speed equal and unequal.

But what if Tuco is on meth

 

[Kellex]

But what if Tuco is on meth

I... don't see how that's going to be helpful for this fight.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Tricky hard hax stomps.

 

[Comiphorous]

Tricky hard hax stomps.

How does someone with no combat applicable haxes hax stomp someone?

 

[Employe]

Tricky hard hax stomps.

It is a 9-C key, he is just a strong dude with a M4 here

 

[Comiphorous]

Anyways, regarding the actual fight since two people blatantly didn't read the OP and pages (one of which admitted to not even wanting to open them...)

Tuco is better than Hofnarr with a gun, and in combat overall. If hofnarr and get into CQC with Tuco he basically wins. Tuco has zero advantages in CQC when Hofnarr has an AP advantage and could unironically tear off his head with relative ease.

 

[Employe]

Anyways, regarding the actual fight since two people blatantly didn't read the OP and pages (one of which admitted to not even wanting to open them...)

Tuco is better than Hofnarr with a gun, and in combat overall. If hofnarr and get into CQC with Tuco he basically wins. Tuco has zero advantages in CQC when Hofnarr has an AP advantage and could unironically tear off his head with relative ease.

To which value head tearing scales? Tuco is like 2000 joules if I'm being correct

Agree with pretty much everything what you've said here, but I don't see them going in CQC when they totes a M4. So I assume Tuco has a better chance of victory?

 

[Kellex]

It is a 9-C key, he is just a strong dude with a M4 here

Speed is unequal, so Tricky/Dr. Hofnar will still be able to react to bullets.

Anyways, regarding the actual fight since two people blatantly didn't read the OP and pages (one of which admitted to not even wanting to open them...)

Tuco is better than Hofnarr with a gun, and in combat overall. If hofnarr and get into CQC with Tuco he basically wins. Tuco has zero advantages in CQC when Hofnarr has an AP advantage and could unironically tear off his head with relative ease.

Also apologies for my comment earlier, I read Tricky and I assumed it was the other Tricky.

 

[Comiphorous]

Speed is unequal, so Tricky/Dr. Hofnar will still be able to react to bullets.

Hofnarr has little to not combat experience in this key so while he could react, it's moreso of a question if he could dodge it and if he could keep that up long enough to get a shot on Tuco.

Also apologies for my comment earlier, I read Tricky and I assumed it was the other Tricky.

It's all good. Tricky's first key isn't exactly used all that often so kinda makes sense. although if it were one of his others keys that'd be on the same level as that one guy who assumed that someone made a thread of springtrap vs post-auditor absorption tricky.

 

[Employe]

Speed is unequal, so Tricky/Dr. Hofnar will still be able to react to bullets.


Also apologies for my comment earlier, I read Tricky and I assumed it was the other Tricky.

Okay, what if reaction is equal (They actually both are in Athlete level of movements)

 

[Comiphorous]

Okay, what if reaction is equal (They actually both are in Athlete level of movements)

well then it can't be added cuz i don't think you can equalize reaction speeds.

not that it matters. Hofnarr has lowkey shitty combat skill in this key and Tuco could still likely hit him, it might just take a bit.

 

[Employe]

I think Tuco is most likely to have an upper hand here for a reasons above

 

[Comiphorous]

I think Tuco is most likely to have an upper hand here for a reasons above

No im pretty sure Hofnarr dodges a few times and shoots tuco to death lmao

we're in Tuco's office and theres little no cover thats gonna stop a bullet from killing either of them, so the guy who can dodge has a far better chance than the dude who's a sitting duck, even if he's got better experience with firearms. Hofnarr can still use firearms, and has shown mediocre to okay aim at times which is really all he needs to shoot Tuco to death.

Tuco:
-Better firearm skills

Tricky:
-has at the bare minimum skill to shoot a person.
-Can dodge bullets

 

[Employe]

No im pretty sure Hofnarr dodges a few times and shoots tuco to death lmao

we're in Tuco's office and theres little no cover thats gonna stop a bullet from killing either of them, so the guy who can dodge has a far better chance than the dude who's a sitting duck, even if he's got better experience with firearms. Hofnarr can still use firearms, and has shown mediocre to okay aim at times which is really all he needs to shoot Tuco to death.

Tuco:
-Better firearm skills

Tricky:
-has at the bare minimum skill to shoot a person.
-Can dodge bullets

I don't think Tricky as Hoffnar has notable dodging feats, especially when speed is equal

Tricky also holds a considerable AP advantage in hand to hand, but Tuco can just shot him which he is most likely to do

 

[Comiphorous]

I don't think Tricky as Hoffnar has notable dodging feats, especially when speed is equal

mf speed equal means shit he still has his reaction speed advantage lmao. if a random grunt can deflect bullets with a sword hofnarr can move away from a bullet he can more than easily react to.

Tricky also holds a considerable AP advantage in hand to hand, but Tuco can just shot him which he is most likely to do

and tricky can also just shoot... Tuco literally just has the advantage that he's better with guns, even though that means shit when Hofnarr has the bare minimum skill to shoot him AND can dodge his shots.

 

[Employe]

mf speed equal means shit he still has his reaction speed advantage lmao. if a random grunt can deflect bullets with a sword hofnarr can move away from a bullet he can more than easily react to.

and tricky can also just shoot... Tuco literally just has the advantage that he's better with guns, even though that means shit when Hofnarr has the bare minimum skill to shoot him AND can dodge his shots.

Tuco should be able to resist at least a single bullet not in head and I unsure what is even Hofnnar's skill

 

[Comiphorous]

Tuco should be able to resist at least a single bullet not in head and I unsure what is even Hofnnar's skill

you gave both participants assault rifles. Tuco isn't going to live to only see one bullet hit him. both have a fully automatic/burst fire weapon.

skill wise hofnarr on a good day has about the skill comparable to an AAHW grunt. (at least he SHOULD, considering the AAHW hired him) so just the usual military training and being able to deflect bullets with a melee weapon.

 

[Employe]

you gave both participants assault rifles. Tuco isn't going to live to only see one bullet hit him. both have a fully automatic/burst fire weapon.

skill wise hofnarr on a good day has about the skill comparable to an AAHW grunt. (at least he SHOULD, considering the AAHW hired him) so just the usual military training and being able to deflect bullets with a melee weapon.

Tricky also seems to be pretty cunning in fight (He literally outsmarted Hank in MC 3 in the one instance)

 

[Comiphorous]

Tricky also seems to be pretty cunning in fight (He literally outsmarted Hank in MC 3 in the one instance)

he does have his moments.

but really, this fight comes down to who hits first. and when one guy can dodge your shots, i think its easy to figure out who is more likely to hit the first shot here.

currently voting Hofnarr unless something new comes up.