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Dark carioca made a calc of megs flying to Saturn in rotf and it got sub-relativistic.
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Travelling interplanetary distances is only MHS+ I think. The nemesis was on one of Saturn's moon I thinkI was just about to mention that. Shouls that be FTL?
According to the movie, it's a planet that looks like Saturn that has a nebula visible in the background. Not stated to be Saturn.According to the movie it's saturn
Since most stuff seem to place it outside sol system, including Hasbro and visual effects supervisor Scot Farrar (the last one was the final answer), I would say it is safe to say it is outside sol (that would match the nebula thing).Ok so I looked at TFwiki, and it claims that there are many contradictions to I. Some say it's a dead moon, some say it's around a dead star, some say it's on Mars, but I find the most likely is Saturn as the planet very much resembles that. The nebulaes seem to be purely for visuals.
This is absolutely not canon, even to the books/comics. From what I can tell, the comics try their hardest to add lore to the movies; the games are just pretty random. Like, a 6 year old kid doing his best to re-create the movie with his toys. The characters in these games would need to have separate pages for it to work, or perhaps just keys on an EU page.Also, the ROTF PS2/Wii game version I mentioned before.
a 6 year old kid doing his best to re-create the movie with his toys.
Didn't say it was canon tho..This is absolutely not canon, even to the books/comics. From what I can tell, the comics try their hardest to add lore to the movies; the games are just pretty random. Like, a 6 year old kid doing his best to re-create the movie with his toys. The characters in these games would need to have separate pages for it to work, or perhaps just keys on an EU page.
That being said, I'm completely on board with helping out on EU Bayverse profiles. I'll look into it some more after I get a little sleep.
2. Area of effect is not the same as AP, also those aren't their high end feats. It's been a while since I last read dreamwave, but dreamwave has some pretty high Tier 7 feats. Canon bayverse is baseline tier 7.Dreamwave Megatron is city block level.
Slag is building level. (Grimlock, who was stomped by Fallen, is stronger probably, but his profile doesn't say by how much).
Unlikely that the writers thought of tgat distinction. That's how strong they are. Otherwisr, they would say it is more. It says it has enough energy to decimate a city block.2. Area of effect is not the same as AP, also those aren't their high end feats. It's been a while since I last read dreamwave, but dreamwave has some pretty high Tier 7 feats. Canon bayverse is baseline tier 7.
It's literally stated that Megatron's full power is unknown on the profile. And again, those are not High end feats.Unlikely that the writers thought of tgat distinction. That's how strong they are. Otherwisr, they would say it is more. It says it has enough energy to decimate a city block.
What are the high end feats then tho?It's literally stated that Megatron's full power is unknown on the profile. And again, those are not High end feats.
Hmm didn't the same bots get harmed by tanks tho in the sams story? Didn't look like high tech tanks either. And it was implied a nuke would kill them. It killed Defensor who matched Devastator. Whatblevel was that nuke?Several bots do survive hits from devastator and Optimus could harm him despite being weaker
It wasn't established that the fallen was above devastator, but it is implied that the fallen was the strongest character in the comic at the time in one of the guidebooks
Tanks:Scans?
So, are these things actually going to be added to the Bayverse?Bayverse toy bios:
Ironhide/Blackout mountain level (2007 Legends Ironhide/Blackout two-pack):
"When two of the biggest bruisers ever constructed on Cybertron clash, the result is a quaking, roaring fireworks display powerful enough to level mountains. Ironhide is the Autobot weapons master, with millions of years of combat experience and a tactical database including the greatest battles ever fought. Blackout is one of the largest Decepticons ever, with an array of weapons designed just for cracking the armored hides of his Autobot enemies."
ROTF Skywarp (Voyager) personal weapons can level mountains and rip reality into a smear of light. In the Tech Specs of the bio fireblast is 9, while Optimus and Megatron are 10:
"Skywarp has never been interested in power or conquest. He simply wishes to be left alone in his pursuit of knowledge. He joined the Decepticons because Megatron was willing to give him facilities in which to work, and simply leave him alone. In return, he has produced countless powerful weapons and experimental systems for his comrades. He is personally equipped with mighty weapons that can twist the very fabric of reality into a smear of color and light, or rip mountains apart.
From the Mind of Simmons: One of the most dangerous I've found evidence of. Information indicates it keeps to itself, usually on remote islands. I have discovered evidence that at least one island has disappeared - probably destroyed. Sailors in south Pacific report "vortex in the sky." What is this alien doing?"
Bludgeon and Whirl fight lasts microseconds, faster than the eye can perceive:
"For the first time on Earth, two masters of the ultimate fighting art - Metallikato - face off in a battle to the very end. Wielding ancient blades, handed down through generations of warriors, Autobot Whirl and Decepticon Bludgeon circle one another, every sensor alert for the slightest opening. Though they move slowly and deliberately now, once they strike, the battle will be far too fast for the human eye to see. It will be decided in a matter of microseconds by flashing blades powered by centuries of training."
2007 Mudflap bio (not the ROTF character). Has a molecule edge saw:
"Mudflap long ago earned the reputation as one of the most vicious of the Decepticons, known for turning his molecule-edge saw on weakened or disabled Autobot warriors. Little does anyone suspect, however, but his cruelty arises from his own conflicted feelings about the war. For ages, he has doubted the Decepticon cause, and secretly yearned to join the Autobots. His reputation is so monstrous that Optimus Prime would never trust him, and so he is condemned to continue serving Megatron, and taking out his frustrations on his captives."
Transformers weapons power:
Nemesis Grimlock's high pressure carbon dioxide gas can destroy its prey's body at a molecular level (I'm guessing the "prey"s are Transformers).
According to Robo-Vision Arcee online bio, Decepticons were working on a star-breaking weapon. The online bio seems lost, so only the TFWiki article remains.
Charii system - Transformers Wiki
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I guess I could make it one big post next time.You can place these feats in a blog, you know that?
Also that nemesis prime is one of Unicron's heralds I think
The toy bios are oftentimes condradicted, but perhaps they apply if they aren't condradicted since they try to expand the film universe and since their background story matches that of the films? But IDK.So, are these things actually going to be added to the Bayverse?
Opinion on the galaxy thing?I don't think we should use the the toy bio, as they are often contradictory to the source material and contradict themselves
I was thinking of something more like superweapons or something, not that the characters were doing it on their own.The galaxy things seems to mean their war just spread to many other planets, not the characters damaging the galaxies themselves