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Transformers: Beast Wars/Machines discussion for both BM Key and G1 canon scaling.

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1. Would someone be able to look at these Beast Wars calcs (particularly the 2nd one)? Because they could boost the power of BW characters, particularly the 2nd calc.

2. I've noticed that Optimus Primal and Megatron from Beast Wars both don't have Beast Machines keys.

As someone who watched the show and personally liked it, here's my proposals:

A. Optimus Primal's technorganic form is almost certainly above his Optimal Optimus form, as Optimal Optimus while in his beast form was heavily struggling against the Vehicons until he got his technorganic form, at which point he easily defeated the Vehicons.

Yes he once fought Dragon Form Megatron in his technorganic form and they were only even (the other times they fought in the show Optimus was in his gorilla form), but considering Megatron was controlling all of Cybertron's technology, it's likely that Megatron probably upgraded himself during that time as well. Also, Transmetal Megatron was already above Optimal Optimus, as both times they fought in Beast Wars Megatron clearly had the upper hand for most of each fight.

B. In the season finale, Megatron puts his spark in a giant version of Optimus Primal's body (without the Beast Mode but plus some wicked vehicle transformations), a form that fans call "Optimal Megatron". This form demolishes technorganic Optimus Primal, and when Megatron absorbs the souls of countless Cybertronians, his size triples at the minimum and he becomes vastly more powerful, likely even enough to upscale to Baseline 7-C+ (52.9 kilotons) due to his size tripling (so his power would likely scale accordingly, especially since he could easily restrain Optimus Primal with just one hand).

C. So I'm 100% sure that Beast Wars is accepted as Canon to the G1 Transformers. Now, aside from the fact that both Optimus Primal and Megatron got the power of their respective ancestor's spark (which is how Optimus Primal became Optimal Optimus and BW Megatron got his Transmetal II form), the fact that Beast Wars Megatron managed to mortally wound G1 Optimus Prime with a fully charged energy blast means that the BW transformers (particular Optimus Primal and BW Megatron) should definitely be at least comparable to the G1 transformers (who are currently High 6-A).
 
I am working on revising the Beast era profiles, but I am trying to find more ap and speed feats.

1. Would someone be able to look at these Beast Wars calcs (particularly the 2nd one)? Because they could boost the power of BW characters, particularly the 2nd calc.
Those calcs have been evaluated already.
2. I've noticed that Optimus Primal and Megatron from Beast Wars both don't have Beast Machines keys.
Most of the Transformers profiles are not in great spots right now, and Beast Machines is something I will get to. Once I have the willpower.
A. Optimus Primal's technorganic form is almost certainly above his Optimal Optimus form, as Optimal Optimus while in his beast form was heavily struggling against the Vehicons until he got his technorganic form, at which point he easily defeated the Vehicons.
I don’t remember any of the Maximals trying to fight back against the Vehicons when they first arrived, they just tried to run.
Yes he once fought Dragon Form Megatron in his technorganic form and they were only even (the other times they fought in the show Optimus was in his gorilla form), but considering Megatron was controlling all of Cybertron's technology, it's likely that Megatron probably upgraded himself during that time as well. Also, Transmetal Megatron was already above Optimal Optimus, as both times they fought in Beast Wars Megatron clearly had the upper hand for most of each fight.
I don’t know why Megatron would be upgrading his dragon body when he was desperately trying to rid himself of it.
C. So I'm 100% sure that Beast Wars is accepted as Canon to the G1 Transformers. Now, aside from the fact that both Optimus Primal and Megatron got the power of their respective ancestor's spark (which is how Optimus Primal became Optimal Optimus and BW Megatron got his Transmetal II form), the fact that Beast Wars Megatron managed to mortally wound G1 Optimus Prime with a fully charged energy blast means that the BW transformers (particular Optimus Primal and BW Megatron) should definitely be at least comparable to the G1 transformers (who are currently High 6-A).
The two main things I want to say about this are that one, the G1 profiles are going through large revisions, and two, Beast Wars is not that clear about which G1 it follows, the Marvel one or the Sunbow one.
 
Those calcs have been evaluated already.
Then why aren't they put in yet?
Most of the Transformers profiles are not in great spots right now, and Beast Machines is something I will get to. Once I have the willpower.

I don’t remember any of the Maximals trying to fight back against the Vehicons when they first arrived, they just tried to run.
First episode. You can find it on YouTube.
I don’t know why Megatron would be upgrading his dragon body when he was desperately trying to rid himself of it.
Yes but before then he likely upgraded himself considering how he now had all of his planet's resources to boost his body with.
The two main things I want to say about this are that one, the G1 profiles are going through large revisions, and two, Beast Wars is not that clear about which G1 it follows, the Marvel one or the Sunbow one.
Is there any major difference?
 
Then why aren't they put in yet?
I’m not just changing ap, I’m actually giving real speed, new abilities, new keys, images, and characters. It is almost sad both how little justifications are on the profiles for everything, and how little profiles there actually are. I have to make over a dozen for Beast Wars alone.
First episode. You can find it on YouTube.
The Maximals in episode 1 were trapped in their original beast modes though.
Yes but before then he likely upgraded himself considering how he now had all of his planet's resources to boost his body with.
Before he took over the planet he was working on the virus with Cryotek as shown in the Botcon comics and such, he didn’t have all of Cybertron’s resources. As for after, like I said, he wanted to get rid of his dragon body (as for why, I don’t know).
Is there any major difference?
Short answer, yes. Entirely different.
 
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