Touma vs Valkenhayn R. Hellsing

[Eganergo]

Kamijou Touma:

Valkenhayn R. Hellsing:

Incon:

Touma tries to catch the person who let the wolf out.

SBA, speed equal, Touma with IB.

 

[Theglassman12]

So what stops Valkenhayn from breathing and atomizing Touma?

 

[Eganergo]

Power null.

 

[Theglassman12]

That doesn't stop the oneshot

 

[The_Anti_Void]

Valken is a Martial Arts user while Touma only knows how to street fight.. Wouldn't he just beat up Touma and not take the teenager seriously? Or can he actually sense IB?

 

[Schnee_One]

Hellsing Breathes and Touma dies

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Touma is still 9-C physically,

So a guy who is physically 5-A just punches him

 

[Eganergo]

Touma can one-shot him too.

 

[Theglassman12]

With a power null move? Is there any proof that move applies to his AP?

 

[Malox1696]

only if the opponent is supernatural in nature

from what i understand this time the opponent is just a mutant right ? it should not work in this case , only supernatural stuff like energy mass entities etc

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

With a power null move? Is there any proof that move applies to his AP?

It isn't, his High 1-C is his powernull, he is 9-C physically

 

[Eganergo]

With a power null move? Is there any proof that move applies to his AP?

He power null Othinus' Gungnir (High 1C and the source of her power). IB is the bane of Blazblue that is outside logic.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

With a power null move? Is there any proof that move applies to his AP?

He power null Othinus' Gungnir (High 1C and the source of her power). IB is the bane of Blazblue that is outside logic.

Yeah, he nulled her hax. He didn't null her AP

 

[Theglassman12]

That's not AP, that's just a power null feat. That doesn't stop Valkenhayn from atomizing Touma

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

With a power null move? Is there any proof that move applies to his AP?

If the opponent is supernatural, it gets erased / oneshot'd on a High 1-C level

 

[Eganergo]

Yes as @Blue said, Touma is 9c.

 

[Malox1696]

the only way IB would one shoot him is if : he using a way to make himself immortal by supernatural means or is made of super natural matter (aka not cells) or he is like a summoned entity

but from the profile he is a werewolf right ? that's just mutation technically

 

[Schnee_One]

He is immortal actually, so IB would work

Then again isn't Hellsing good at CQC?

 

[Eganergo]

the only way IB would one shoot him is if : he using a way to make himself immortal by supernatural means or is made of super natural matter (aka not cells) or he is like a summoned entity

Val is naturally supernatural. He exists outside logic.

 

[Malox1696]

He is immortal actually, so IB would work
Then again isn't Hellsing good at CQC?

immortal in what way constant spell or i used it one time and bye ?

 

[The_Anti_Void]

Lol this is in FnG

 

[Theglassman12]

He is immortal actually, so IB would work

Then again isn't Hellsing good at CQC?

Beastkin longevity ain't exactly immortal, especially when it's a common trait of their species.

Yes he has over hundreds of years of combat experience. He wouldn't let Touma touch him if he tried.

 

[Eganergo]

He is immortal actually, so IB would work

Then again isn't Hellsing good at CQC?

Yeah, one of the best. But that doesn't mean he won't touch Touma hand.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Eganergo why would he want to touch his hands instead of fist bumping his face off?

 

[Schnee_One]

Actually it kinda does, if he's far more skilled then Touma he's not getting hit in a million years. Kinda simple really

 

[Eganergo]

@Eganergo why would he want to touch his hands instead of fist bumping his face off?

Because Touma has analytical prediction and will defend. I'm sure Val will bust through that hand unless he know what is going on.

 

[Schnee_One]

How will he reliably defend using only a single arm?

 

[Eganergo]

How will he reliably defend using only a single arm?

Like just put his right arm? That what he always does regardless the enemies supernatural or not. It is his habit to put his IB forward instead of dodging.

 

[Malox1696]

Beastkin longevity ain't exactly immortal, especially when it's a common trait of their species.

Yes he has over hundreds of years of combat experience. He wouldn't let Touma touch him if he tried.

Depends on the case, if it's a constant spell that keeps u immortal it would work or if the effect of the spell give u immortality by unnatural means (like astral pane immortality, linking ur self to a higher being , soul immortality etc)

but if it's a spell that make u immortal by natural means and is not constant then it would not work (example: plants are both ageless and regenerative, some species of animal have no life spawn other can regenerate from their smallest part , especially microbes like the hydra, the real one not the mythological)

 

[Schnee_One]

Like just put his right arm? That what he always does regardless the enemies supernatural or not. It is his habit to put his IB forward instead of dodging.

So Hellsing punches around it then.

 

[Theglassman12]

There's no constant spell that Valkenhayn has that makes him immortal. He's just a beastkin. Beastkins live longer than normal humans.

 

[Eganergo]

Like just put his right arm? That what he always does regardless the enemies supernatural or not. It is his habit to put his IB forward instead of dodging.

So Hellsing punches around it then.

That what i said, unless he know about IB, he will just punch Touma arm. Well, touma is just a weak human in front of him after all. The question is, does he know about IB able to yeets him?

 

[Malox1696]

There's no constant spell that Valkenhayn has that makes him immortal. He's just a beastkin. Beastkins live longer than normal humans.

Then IB would not work assuming he is just a mutant and not supernatural by nature

 

[Schnee_One]

Like just put his right arm? That what he always does regardless the enemies supernatural or not. It is his habit to put his IB forward instead of dodging.

So Hellsing punches around it then.

That what i said, unless he know about IB, he will just punch Touma arm. Well, touma is just a weak human in front of him after all. The question is, does he know about IB able to yeets him?

Of course he knows that, he has information analysis and has the common sense to think "Hes nullifying my projectiles with the arm, don't touch it"

 

[Eganergo]

Then IB would not work assuming he is just a mutant and not supernatural by nature

He is supernatural by nature. An irregular even in the BB verse.

@Scheene wait, he can throw projectiles?

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes he can use projectiles. Pretty much everyone in BB can do that

 

[Malox1696]

Of course he knows that, he has information analysis and has the common sense to think "Hes nullifying my projectiles with the arm, don't touch it"

not to say anything about ur opinion but that is missing in the profile

 

[Theglassman12]

@Eganergo it doesn't matter who or what he's fighting. Valkenhayn never Acts cocky towards anyone and would go all out. Especially if he can see that he has a glowing power on his hand and would just avoid it and attack anything but the arm.

@Schnee uhh. Valkenhayn doesn't have info analysis.

 

[Eganergo]

Yes he can use projectiles. Pretty much everyone in BB can do that

Does he do that in character? I know BB is a fighting game, but the visual novel/lore/cutscenes still count right?

 

[Malox1696]

@Eganergo it doesn't matter who or what he's fighting. Valkenhayn never Acts cocky towards anyone and would go all out. Especially if he can see that he has a glowing power on his hand and would just avoid it and attack anything but the arm.
@Schnee uhh. Valkenhayn doesn't have info analysis.

technically IB is just a Normal arm it does not glow or anything, and IB can't be detected unless u use supernatural power on it