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Uhhh no. The first thing that Gio did was to shoot a pebbleRtZ was literally the first thing that GER did, how that it isnt his first move?
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Uhhh no. The first thing that Gio did was to shoot a pebbleRtZ was literally the first thing that GER did, how that it isnt his first move?
Apparently I need a CRT, but it's stated in the Touma wiki that IB can't negate souls.Touma negates any supranatural thing doesnt matter its life force, magic, or any other stuff. Any abnormal power will be negated as long as thats bellow H1C, which means all abilities (including power manip, causality manip, etc) will be negated. Just as simple as that.
2 for Toumawhat are the votes so far?
Souls inside bodies, yes he can't negate it because its normal. Souls outside bodies, no he can negate it because souls outside the bodies is abnormal (supranatural) thing.Apparently I need a CRT, but it's stated in the Touma wiki that IB can't negate souls.
So apparently best thing Gio could do is to Desummon the standSouls inside bodies, yes he can't negate it because its normal. Souls outside bodies, no he can negate it because souls outside the bodies is abnormal (supranatural)
Yea, but since the user will also dies when his/her stand dies, I doubt Giorno can win this match.So apparently best thing Gio could do is to Desummon the stand
That's gonna be an incon since Touma can't hurt GioPeople said that Giorno will use his stand to fight Touma. But how about we adds stands are restricted for Giorno? He will be had better chance against Touma with it since he had more fighting exeperience xD
True, but IB can't negate Stands if they're desummoned.Yea, but since the user will also dies when his/her stand dies, I doubt Giorno can win this match.
Shigekiyo with his Harvest in other hand maybe had better chance against Touma since he can summon multiple stands tho.
Wasn't the explosion like right in his face though?Touma wins against Shigekiyo, Harvest was affected by KQ because one of them touched a button which was a bomb
Uhh no. One of Harvest was touching the coin that's a bomb, so Shigekiyo got affected tooWasn't the explosion like right in his face though?
Giorno's smart he'll know what he'll do, that being one of his actions.Desummoned means that Giorno not using his stand is it? Fair enough, he had better chance to beat Touma if he not using his stand. Although, I agree that it will be incon.
because i literally explained it in those 2 pages.Do you have any argument for why they should be removed besides "totally unfounded?"
since Touma dosen't have NPI
Souls inside bodies, yes he can't negate it because its normal. Souls outside bodies, no he can negate it because souls outside the bodies is abnormal (supranatural) thing.
Check NT22 when Touma and friends fight Coronzon. Coronzon does'nt afraid IB when she inside her avatar (human bodies) but get scared by IB when she pulled out from her avatar.
He dosen't normally.Except he does. Atleast, his right hand does, as somebody else in the thread pointed out:
He dosen't normally
also, Ger dosen't punch on the hands. also does his NPI affect selective intangible?
and he should have it on profile, but he dosen't.
What exactly do you mean by "he doesn't normally"? It's literally part of his Imagine Breaker's ability to negate things (be it physical or non-physical), as long as they meet the criteria of being supernatural, which GER does.He dosen't normally.
also, Ger dosen't punch on the hands. also does his NPI affect selective intangible?
and he should have it on profile, but he dosen't.
he need his hand for affect them (and it isn't writed on the profile)Not sure what are you implying here.
2. Stands are selectively intangible.The intangibility is, as it says, selective. Maybe I forgot something, but Giorno never makes GE go intangible.
the first part that of your quote is fair, the fact is before the intangilbe and stuff was underated. but now it's pretty much used so.That's fair. Someone should make a CRT for that, but nobody was even bothered by the fact Touma didn't have NPI in the previous GER Giorno thread.
However, as others have stated, as long as the thing is supernatural and isn't above IB's tier, then Touma can nullify it just fine.
1) Imagine Breaker requise Physical ContactIt's literally part of his Imagine Breaker's ability to negate things (be it physical or non-physical), as long as they meet the criteria of being supernatural, which GER does.
the second is a pseudo-No Limits Fallacy.
1) Imagine Breaker requise Physical Contact
I mean, for what i know his NPI is only Incorporeal (if we would consider it)Yea, I worded that pretty badly. What I meant is what he has been shown to be capable of doing with IB, and of course the weaknesses of his right arm.
I mean, he need touch or be touched (things like completally influence the entire body would also active the effct, since it influenced his hand)No it doesn't according to what others have said in this thread.
I really don't know where you're getting the NLF from, or the idea that he can't interact with non-physical things, when it's literally part of his ability, and he has demonstrated an ability to do so on several accounts.1) Imagine Breaker requise Physical Contact
2) Pseuodo-NLF (as i said before)
3) generalization of the opponement ability
where i said he can't? i said you described it as NLF. also he need it to be on the profile for be used. also it's just Incorporeal NPI.I really don't know where you're getting the NLF from, or the idea that he can't interact with non-physical things, when it's literally part of his ability, and he has demonstrated an ability to do so on several accounts.
Bruh, you didn't get what i meant with "physical".His Imagine breaker has negated things like his own luck (not physical), planet-wide mental manipulation (not physical), death manipulation (not physical), and even straight up interacted with a soul (which lo and behold, GER just so happens to be).