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Touhou General Discussion Thread 2: 17.5 Edition.

She never summon keystones as big as this tho, and Tenshi also push down the big keystone with her feet. Again, I don't have a feat in my mind for LS, I'll probably try and remember some...if I'm not lazy.
 
Btw Eirin can handle Klein Bottles with infinite mass so infinite LS may not be a meme after all :v
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She never summon keystones as big as this tho, and Tenshi also push down the big keystone with her feet. Again, I don't have a feat in my mind for LS, I'll probably try and remember some...if I'm not lazy.
...So? Why are we assuming that earth manipulation from someone who can cause earthquakes caps out at class 25? Where the hell else would she get this keystone, anyways?

It never was.
Doremy can lift dream souls, which contain entire multiverses so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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...So? Why are we assuming that earth manipulation from someone who can cause earthquakes caps out at class 25? Where the hell else would she get this keystone, anyways?
Cause Earthquake by shifting keystones, mnyess. Idk, slamming down keystone that is supposed to float is still a feat. The heaven.
Doremy can lift dream souls, which contain entire multiverses so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Nah nah not that, not yet.
 
I don't know how we'd even calculate that, tbh. Feels like it'd just be unquantifiable, but I'm sure there's an LS feat calc out there for something similar. I'll ask around.

But at the end of the day, we never see Tenshi actually push the keystone down, and when she's repeatedly shown the ability to manipulate keystones without touching them, I think that's a much safer assumption to go with. Besides, I think the tree uprooting stuff would hover around class 25 anyways.
 
I don't know how we'd even calculate that, tbh. Feels like it'd just be unquantifiable, but I'm sure there's an LS feat calc out there for something similar. I'll ask around.
Idk mate, I just put a feat I remember about.
But at the end of the day, we never see Tenshi actually push the keystone down, and when she's repeatedly shown the ability to manipulate keystones without touching them, I think that's a much safer assumption to go with. Besides, I think the tree uprooting stuff would hover around class 25 anyways.
If Tenshi was standing on the keystone, it's more than likely she push it down. But alright then, I'm gonna find an immeasureable lifting strength just you wait.
 
Tbh, character moving in an infinite mass blackhole should grant infinite lifting strength, or even immeasureable considering the klein bottle is 4D.
 
I don't think we give infinite LS from black holes, nor do we give immeasurable LS to anyone who can lift something with HDE.

I think we have enough for infinite LS as is though, 3 feats ain't bad.
 
The klein bottle contain infinite mass, characters are capable of moving in a place with infinite mass, that's a lifting feat.
Uh

I really do not understand the second part. What does 'moving in a place with infinite mass' even mean?

We do tho?? Heck, even Goku absorbing the universe tree energy has immeasureable lifting strength.
oh ****

so now Reimu not only blitzes and oneshots DBS Goku, but she beats him in an arm wrestling match too

Nah, I don't believe Suika does contain infinite something, but I will check, just in case.
The whole thing with her gourd is that it contains infinite sake, and I'm pretty sure LE shows that there's a whole pocket dimension in there.
 
Honestly since we have more infinite LS feats on the table, and I don't think Eirin's Klein Bottle is even 100% accepted as 4D, we'd probably be better off with an 'infinite, possibly immeasurable' rating at best.
 
I really do not understand the second part. What does 'moving in a place with infinite mass' even mean?
The "Black hole" that the character effortlessly moves in. Let's say, if there's an infinite amount of heavy blocks on top of my body, and I effortlessy move with that, wouldn't that qualify for LS.
Honestly since we have more infinite LS feats on the table, and I don't think Eirin's Klein Bottle is even 100% accepted as 4D, we'd probably be better off with an 'infinite, possibly immeasurable' rating at best.
No, since I want to cook Goku
 
The "Black hole" that the character effortlessly moves in. Let's say, if there's an infinite amount of heavy blocks on top of my body, and I effortlessy move with that, wouldn't that qualify for LS.
Ah yeah, I'll have to recheck the visuals of that spell card but I know what you mean. Are there any examples of a character moving in the center of a black hole getting infinite LS, though? Just to make sure.

Tbh, DBS Goku has shitty lifting strength that even class 25 Reimu will beat him in an wrestling match.
Oh wow he literally has unknown lifting strength, wild.
 
Like 3 months from now lmao

Not high up on the list of important CRTs as of now, I can put it into one of mine but even then that'll be decently far away from now.
 
I'm afraid not.
So, Gensokyo is 4D/L2-C due to being a brane world.

Hell, the Netherworld, and Heaven are all infinitely larger than Gensokyo, and thus 5D/L1-C.

The Dream World contains recreations of these locations as infinitesimal subsets of itself, thus making it 6D/L1-C.

And the outside world is stated to see all of Touhou canon as, well, Touhou as we view it; Nothing more than stages in a game or pages in a manga. Something supported by people in the outside world recognizing Sumireko's photos as cosplay, meaning Touhou characters there are seen as 'fictional characters'. Plus, all the R > F difference in the Hifuu CDs. Also something about Chimata embodying open markets like Comiket and saying to Reimu "you're only alive because of me", implying Reimu only exists because of an event that took place in the outside world.

So the outside world transcends a realm which transcends several realms which transcend a realm that is 4D. 3 layers of transcendence gets you up to 7D, or 1-C.

And ofc scaling is easy, Hecatia > Junko = primordial gods = all of reality, and Doremy's whole dream fuckery (plus Yukari's 'all of reality' statement and boundary hax scaling to primordials).
 
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