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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

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I'm pretty sure we have some random Type 1 Abstract 2-A that isn't in the Top 4. They can go there.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Fire Emblem 2-As are already superior to DBH tbh
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no? they get passived to death and the goku loses was before he haved DD (basically a BS ability that sets your stamina to 1 and one move will stun you) and domain expansion who i heard nullifies passives
 
Livinmeme said:
no? they get passived to death and the goku loses was before he haved DD (basically a BS ability that sets your stamina to 1 and one move will stun you) and domain expansion who i heard nullifies passives
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Uh, it doesnt, also Freya already beat xeno goku
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Can you guys please explain exactly which spot you the characters should be in and why they defeat said character/verse in that spot. We can't just add someone in a spot if the 5 spots are already taken, especially since I don't know majority of these characters.

That nonexistent physiology reasoning looks weird but I'll add him.
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The nasuverse character already beat khorne in a battle and khorne is the highest guy on the low 1-C


 
For Shadow low 7-C 3/2 tieing with rei, for one shadow mind who is a part of shadow in this key and can be summoned by him was already accepted by supporters of both verses that it is an icon, with shadow having passive fate manip which basically turns the entire world in his favor, is inorganic and is non-physical, has all of his perks which include, increased damage buffs, stomping you from using magic via concussion, being able to knock people down with kicks easier via steel foot, ignoring guards via guard break, not dying from a death blow and healing from it via enlightenment, his blocks can neg damage on a chance, more dealing extra damage, chance to reduce the damage done to his body and to his head, chance to reduce magic damage, restoring health off of his magic, damage reduction in the air or on the ground, that was perks alone for enchantments which can go on his body, his head, his legs or his weapon, he has more extra damage, he can weaken people and poision even other inorganics, he can heal, he can gain heal from attacks made on him on a chance, can have his weapons lifesteal on a chance, can stun, can set a timebomb that does his damage again after he attacks you and kocks you upwards, can take less damage and send it back on a chance with him having reistances to soul, empath, mind, memory, corruption (with a bit or morailty), madness, void and life, with him having time travel via eclipse, and for SF3 stuff he has light manip, forcefilds, has resistance to more soul stuff and possesion, posion, fear, disease and radiation and that is for shadow by himself, but as a said earlier, he has shadow mind as apart of him that he can summon to help, shadow mind has possesion, mind manip, corruption on a body and soul level, transmutation, empath and morality manip, summoning of shadow beasts which also posses and disease hax people (not in the way that is Incorganic physology reistable), they corrupt and transmute people into more of themselves, when they attack they heal and the healing gets stronger the more scared you are of them, and back onto more of shadow minds stuff, he is all of shadow energy so to get rid of him you need to get rid of all of it, he also has fear manip, disease and dream manip, can make forcefeilds that explode upon breaking that also heal him from the damage they took, all of it's attacks heal it andit heals passvely and can use shadow energy to heal itself, has poison manip, darkness and weather manip, chain manip, electricity, tk, sleep manip, and i am not going to keep listing this since he has too much stuff, the other key point is fight rules which cause rules to be imposed within an area if there is enough shadow energy which has a varity of uses and things it causes and says no to.
 
Contenders for 2-A:
This monster

OR

Characters from FE Heroes like death herself

I recommend against using characters from Xenoblade or DnD since both are subject to potentially becoming tier 1 smurfs in the future (albeit the former's revision has sorta died) .

I recommend not using Ain since he may actually receive a sustainable downgrade in his current revision.

Both characters from both DBH or FF may become contenders for 2-A but are still going through current revisions, so keep them off the recommendation list for the time being (ignore my Neo-Exdeath comment earlier).

That's my takes for the 5th spot in 2-A. If I'm forgetting someone please comment below.
 
Characters from SCP should take the 4th spot. We already have 2634, but 3125, True Form 682, and 6820 all scale to Θ dimensions, which is a number between 5 and 6, which means they stomp all 5D beings but get stomped by all 6D beings. Still beat The Emperor though.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Can you guys please explain exactly which spot you the characters should be in and why they defeat said character/verse in that spot. We can't just add someone in a spot if the 5 spots are already taken, especially since I don't know majority of these characters.
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1st 2A and 2C for orcus. Dnd is already above the others in the strongest list
 
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